Comments on: Blocking Opera users can also get you in trouble with Google search http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html A blog covering the latest buzz on the Opera browser and its competition. Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:00:42 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: oyun hileleri http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-72997 oyun hileleri Wed, 13 Feb 2008 14:43:18 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-72997 i’m using opera 9.25, and the browser.js did work perfectly, because the first time i visit the website in my life i was masked as firefox. However i was still blocked by the upgrade page! i’m using opera 9.25, and the browser.js did work perfectly, because the first time i visit the website in my life i was masked as firefox. However i was still blocked by the upgrade page!

]]> By: Matt http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-72373 Matt Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:37:50 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-72373 I checked cvs.com using Opera and it seems to be working now! I do not get the default error page. I checked cvs.com using Opera and it seems to be working now! I do not get the default error page.

]]> By: Daniel Goldman http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-72015 Daniel Goldman Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:00:47 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-72015 @Colin: what's the URL of the studentloan.com page that doesn't work well with Opera? @fearphage: thanks, I've updated to post. @Colin: what’s the URL of the studentloan.com page that doesn’t work well with Opera?

@fearphage: thanks, I’ve updated to post.

]]> By: Ben Buchanan http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71974 Ben Buchanan Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:43:27 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71974 I do think it's a great idea to visually notify users that Opera has had to modify the page to make it work. It wouldn't have to be in your face but something discrete in the status bar would be good. Alternativly, a massive big red box could pop up with alarm bells ringing saying "this site was built by people who still think the 'browser war' is between IE and Netscape!". But only a few of us would get the joke... I do think it’s a great idea to visually notify users that Opera has had to modify the page to make it work. It wouldn’t have to be in your face but something discrete in the status bar would be good.

Alternativly, a massive big red box could pop up with alarm bells ringing saying “this site was built by people who still think the ‘browser war’ is between IE and Netscape!”. But only a few of us would get the joke…

]]> By: victor http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71963 victor Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:46:48 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71963 i'm using opera 9.25, and the browser.js did work perfectly, because the first time i visit the website in my life i was masked as firefox. However i was still blocked by the upgrade page! Then, i changed to mask as iexplorer, and it was working i could enter the website. Finally, i wanna tell that it's weird, but on my browser, masking as firefox simply doesn't work most of the times, i have to mask as iexplorer to have the masking correctly working. i’m using opera 9.25, and the browser.js did work perfectly, because the first time i visit the website in my life i was masked as firefox. However i was still blocked by the upgrade page!

Then, i changed to mask as iexplorer, and it was working i could enter the website.

Finally, i wanna tell that it’s weird, but on my browser, masking as firefox simply doesn’t work most of the times, i have to mask as iexplorer to have the masking correctly working.

]]> By: Andrew D http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71955 Andrew D Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:02:51 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71955 @wupperbayer I think that is a SUPERB idea. A little glowing nasty light down the bottom or in the address bar to show which pages Opera has had to finesse to let it work. Taking it and running with it, maybe clicking on that little icon could show a small form with basic details of what was done (taken from specially formatted comments in code maybe?) and a link to email the site admin asking they fix it. Two clicks from finding that icon to an email being open directed to them. Might encourage admins to sort out those simple issues if users send emails as well as the company dealing with them? @wupperbayer

I think that is a SUPERB idea.

A little glowing nasty light down the bottom or in the address bar to show which pages Opera has had to finesse to let it work.

Taking it and running with it, maybe clicking on that little icon could show a small form with basic details of what was done (taken from specially formatted comments in code maybe?) and a link to email the site admin asking they fix it.

Two clicks from finding that icon to an email being open directed to them. Might encourage admins to sort out those simple issues if users send emails as well as the company dealing with them?

]]> By: w2 http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71862 w2 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 09:13:24 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71862 <blockquote>I wonder if google punishes themselves for blocking opera…</blockquote> It doesnt because google has no its own 'content' so you cant miss it using any form of search. And btw google does not block opera, it doesnt support it, it is a difference.

I wonder if google punishes themselves for blocking opera…

It doesnt because google has no its own ‘content’ so you cant miss it using any form of search. And btw google does not block opera, it doesnt support it, it is a difference.

]]> By: fearphage http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71833 fearphage Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:57:12 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71833 <blockquote>We’ve just updated our browser.js to give the ability for Opera users to visit the cvs.com homepage.</blockquote>Just for the record, this was fixed using the override_downloaded.ini which is commonly referred to as the <acronym title="user agent">ua</acronym>.ini. @wupperbayer: That's a brilliant idea. One of us should <a href="http://my.opera.com/community/forums/forum.dml?id=24" rel="nofollow">start a thread</a> about it at my.opera.com. Currently, all browser.js changes do post a message to the error console (Tools, Advanced, Error Console). AS vindictive as it is, I'm happy that the ignorant and/or lazy web devs are being "punished". I wonder if google punishes themselves for blocking opera... @everyone: If you want a (possibly) quick fix (read: hack) for any web site (that you are not designing/creating) that's not working correctly in opera, I would suggest you start a thread <a href="http://my.opera.com/community/forums/forum.dml?id=29" rel="nofollow">Open the Web & Take Action</a>. This will usually get a quick userjs fix or atleast notify alot of people about the problem. If you are having trouble getting a site you are developing working in opera, i would suggest you go to the <a href="http://my.opera.com/community/forums/forum.dml?id=27" rel="nofollow">Opera and cross-browser Web design</a>. To get the most out of that experience, I would suggest you <a href="http://validator.w3.org/" rel="nofollow">validate your site</a> <i>before</i> you post there.

We’ve just updated our browser.js to give the ability for Opera users to visit the cvs.com homepage.

Just for the record, this was fixed using the override_downloaded.ini which is commonly referred to as the ua.ini.

@wupperbayer: That’s a brilliant idea. One of us should start a thread about it at my.opera.com. Currently, all browser.js changes do post a message to the error console (Tools, Advanced, Error Console).

AS vindictive as it is, I’m happy that the ignorant and/or lazy web devs are being “punished”. I wonder if google punishes themselves for blocking opera…

@everyone: If you want a (possibly) quick fix (read: hack) for any web site (that you are not designing/creating) that’s not working correctly in opera, I would suggest you start a thread Open the Web & Take Action. This will usually get a quick userjs fix or atleast notify alot of people about the problem. If you are having trouble getting a site you are developing working in opera, i would suggest you go to the Opera and cross-browser Web design. To get the most out of that experience, I would suggest you validate your site before you post there.

]]> By: Me http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71831 Me Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:29:27 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71831 It works, sorry. Opera updated silently, I needed only to restart Opera... Now, I am free to NOT buy there :D It works, sorry. Opera updated silently, I needed only to restart Opera…
Now, I am free to NOT buy there :D

]]> By: Me http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71830 Me Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:26:55 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71830 My Opera does not work on cvs either. It states it already is updated, but I get the block page. (I do not need cvs, they may want me though... ;-) My Opera does not work on cvs either. It states it already is updated, but I get the block page. (I do not need cvs, they may want me though… ;-)

]]> By: Investor http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71829 Investor Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:10:07 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71829 @alex, thanks, did so, but no... so my install or PC is not working right ... Never mind, though, if it works for mainstream, I'm happy ;) @alex,
thanks, did so, but no… so my install or PC is not working right … Never mind, though, if it works for mainstream, I’m happy ;)

]]> By: Colin http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71828 Colin Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:34:53 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71828 What about Citigroup's studentloan.com? They seem to have had problems with Opera for ages, but it isn't simply a browser block. Their server page file extension shows up as a download. I'm not sure how many American college students pay their refinanced loans there, but it's a lot. What about Citigroup’s studentloan.com? They seem to have had problems with Opera for ages, but it isn’t simply a browser block. Their server page file extension shows up as a download. I’m not sure how many American college students pay their refinanced loans there, but it’s a lot.

]]> By: alex http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71827 alex Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:01:27 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71827 @Investor 9745 is working fine with www.cvs.com just go to "help->check for updates" and restart opera @Investor 9745 is working fine with http://www.cvs.com just go to “help->check for updates” and restart opera

]]> By: Investor http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71824 Investor Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:33:33 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71824 Done that, are you sure Opera build 9745 can access www.cvs.com ? Done that, are you sure Opera build 9745 can access http://www.cvs.com ?

]]> By: karaj http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71823 karaj Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:29:00 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2008/01/blocking-opera-users-can-also-get-you-in-trouble-with-google-search.html#comment-71823 As I see, you do not have to restart Opera after checking for new versions, it will use the new one when it is updated. As I see, you do not have to restart Opera after checking for new versions, it will use the new one when it is updated.

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