Comments on: PC World: Mozilla, Opera want to make video on the Web easier http://operawatch.com/news/2007/12/pc-world-mozilla-opera-want-to-make-video-on-the-web-easier.html A blog covering the latest buzz on the Opera browser and its competition. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:36:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Nilotpal http://operawatch.com/news/2007/12/pc-world-mozilla-opera-want-to-make-video-on-the-web-easier.html#comment-69369 Nilotpal Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:51:08 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/12/pc-world-mozilla-opera-want-to-make-video-on-the-web-easier.html#comment-69369 I think native playback of video is a great idea, not only from a usability viewpoint, but from a security viewpoint as well. I have seen very few persons actually updating their flash or quicktime or real plugins, even though they they update their browsers regularly. Assuming that the vendors are responsive enough to close their security holes fast, that will be a good protection against malware. AQnd speaking of security, when is Opera going to see a Firefox like auto-update process? I think native playback of video is a great idea, not only from a usability viewpoint, but from a security viewpoint as well. I have seen very few persons actually updating their flash or quicktime or real plugins, even though they they update their browsers regularly. Assuming that the vendors are responsive enough to close their security holes fast, that will be a good protection against malware.
AQnd speaking of security, when is Opera going to see a Firefox like auto-update process?

]]> By: Øyvind Ø http://operawatch.com/news/2007/12/pc-world-mozilla-opera-want-to-make-video-on-the-web-easier.html#comment-69354 Øyvind Ø Tue, 11 Dec 2007 07:48:56 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/12/pc-world-mozilla-opera-want-to-make-video-on-the-web-easier.html#comment-69354 I can see the end of flash on all my machines...¶¶¶-ØØ- I can see the end of flash on all my machines…¶¶¶-ØØ-

]]> By: junkeR http://operawatch.com/news/2007/12/pc-world-mozilla-opera-want-to-make-video-on-the-web-easier.html#comment-69349 junkeR Tue, 11 Dec 2007 00:30:16 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/12/pc-world-mozilla-opera-want-to-make-video-on-the-web-easier.html#comment-69349 I can't wait till this proposal is realized. Bravo for Mozilla/Opera! I can’t wait till this proposal is realized. Bravo for Mozilla/Opera!

]]> By: Dane http://operawatch.com/news/2007/12/pc-world-mozilla-opera-want-to-make-video-on-the-web-easier.html#comment-69348 Dane Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:08:06 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/12/pc-world-mozilla-opera-want-to-make-video-on-the-web-easier.html#comment-69348 Yes, the article is only about Mozilla and Opera's support for the video element but I thought the discussion on the video format was interesting and related to the article. Also i think the two issues do go hand in hand because if you are to have native support for video without "the need for any plugins" there probably has to be support for a baseline codec built into the browsers... Yes, the article is only about Mozilla and Opera’s support for the video element but I thought the discussion on the video format was interesting and related to the article.

Also i think the two issues do go hand in hand because if you are to have native support for video without “the need for any plugins” there probably has to be support for a baseline codec built into the browsers…

]]> By: Daniel Goldman http://operawatch.com/news/2007/12/pc-world-mozilla-opera-want-to-make-video-on-the-web-easier.html#comment-69347 Daniel Goldman Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:50:55 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/12/pc-world-mozilla-opera-want-to-make-video-on-the-web-easier.html#comment-69347 Percy, my point is that there are two issues being debated in the W3C/WHATWG regarding native video support: 1) Whether and how browsers should support native video 2) Which video format should be supported. Percy, my point is that there are two issues being debated in the W3C/WHATWG regarding native video support: 1) Whether and how browsers should support native video 2) Which video format should be supported.

]]> By: Percy Cabello http://operawatch.com/news/2007/12/pc-world-mozilla-opera-want-to-make-video-on-the-web-easier.html#comment-69346 Percy Cabello Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:44:25 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/12/pc-world-mozilla-opera-want-to-make-video-on-the-web-easier.html#comment-69346 Daniel, the point is the draft in its current state says Theora/Vorbis should be supported as part of the implementation and there's where Nokia objects as it claims Theora (or Borbis, don't remember exactly) may have some patent protected portions which would disqualify it as a neutral (money wise) option. Daniel, the point is the draft in its current state says Theora/Vorbis should be supported as part of the implementation and there’s where Nokia objects as it claims Theora (or Borbis, don’t remember exactly) may have some patent protected portions which would disqualify it as a neutral (money wise) option.

]]> By: zzz http://operawatch.com/news/2007/12/pc-world-mozilla-opera-want-to-make-video-on-the-web-easier.html#comment-69345 zzz Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:39:58 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/12/pc-world-mozilla-opera-want-to-make-video-on-the-web-easier.html#comment-69345 Flash Lite isn't that bloated and heavy, actually. At least that's my impression. But it's for mobile devices only. Flash Lite isn’t that bloated and heavy, actually. At least that’s my impression. But it’s for mobile devices only.

]]> By: Giraffe http://operawatch.com/news/2007/12/pc-world-mozilla-opera-want-to-make-video-on-the-web-easier.html#comment-69343 Giraffe Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:26:34 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/12/pc-world-mozilla-opera-want-to-make-video-on-the-web-easier.html#comment-69343 It would be good to get rid of the Flash plugin per se - typical Adobe: bloated and heavy. There's a site that I use that's all Flash, so I can't just flip to and fro as only the context menu for Flash comes up :annoying! It would be good to get rid of the Flash plugin per se - typical Adobe: bloated and heavy.
There’s a site that I use that’s all Flash, so I can’t just flip to and fro as only the context menu for Flash comes up :annoying!

]]> By: Daniel Goldman http://operawatch.com/news/2007/12/pc-world-mozilla-opera-want-to-make-video-on-the-web-easier.html#comment-69339 Daniel Goldman Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:11:57 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/12/pc-world-mozilla-opera-want-to-make-video-on-the-web-easier.html#comment-69339 Dane, the choice of video format is independent of the HTML video element. Supporting native video is a proposal standing on its own. Dane, the choice of video format is independent of the HTML video element. Supporting native video is a proposal standing on its own.

]]> By: Dane http://operawatch.com/news/2007/12/pc-world-mozilla-opera-want-to-make-video-on-the-web-easier.html#comment-69337 Dane Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:52:30 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/12/pc-world-mozilla-opera-want-to-make-video-on-the-web-easier.html#comment-69337 A very interesting discussion about Nokia's oposing viewpoint on using Theora/Ogg for the video element was just recently on slashdot. http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/12/09/2045200.shtml Nokia's main argument against using Theora/ogg is it's lack of support for DRM and OGG's supposedly unknown status regarding patents that might be covering it (although OGG was designed to be patent-free). A very interesting discussion about Nokia’s oposing viewpoint on using Theora/Ogg for the video element was just recently on slashdot.

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/12/09/2045200.shtml

Nokia’s main argument against using Theora/ogg is it’s lack of support for DRM and OGG’s supposedly unknown status regarding patents that might be covering it (although OGG was designed to be patent-free).

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