Comments on: Ajaxian: Browsers other than Opera are falling victim to the successes of Ajax http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html A blog covering the latest buzz on the Opera browser and its competition. Sat, 13 Feb 2010 08:45:11 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Cowboy http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html/comment-page-1#comment-69313 Cowboy Sat, 08 Dec 2007 16:54:57 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html#comment-69313 What's the best browser? What’s the best browser?

]]> By: Cowboy http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html/comment-page-1#comment-69312 Cowboy Sat, 08 Dec 2007 16:49:31 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html#comment-69312 Yeah. True! Yeah. True!

]]> By: j_sk http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html/comment-page-1#comment-69195 j_sk Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:36:47 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html#comment-69195 2nd @w2 computer world, the open one almost, doesn't obey the simple consumption law. It's not that simple as use it and forget. A very vey small amount of basic bases are required. a big thanks to all devs. 2nd @w2
computer world, the open one almost, doesn’t obey the simple consumption law.
It’s not that simple as use it and forget. A very vey small amount of basic bases are required.
a big thanks to all devs.

]]> By: j_sk http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html/comment-page-1#comment-69194 j_sk Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:30:08 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html#comment-69194 @w2 Once you've set your files, and it's very easy, nothing impeeds to set your cache in your profiles folder on the stick. Your hard drive keeps clean of any temp or other files this way. You can even also manage to have your cache on a Ram device, other than the stick. In general, portable apps are made for a large public and almost not for slowing or complicating things. @w2
Once you’ve set your files, and it’s very easy, nothing impeeds to set your cache in your profiles folder on the stick. Your hard drive keeps clean of any temp or other files this way.
You can even also manage to have your cache on a Ram device, other than the stick.
In general, portable apps are made for a large public and almost not for slowing or complicating things.

]]> By: w2 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html/comment-page-1#comment-69183 w2 Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:19:52 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html#comment-69183 "I’d also like to say Markus Obermaier does a great job for Opera to be on a usbstick." i've tried few portable operas. user experience of them falls short to portable ff (http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable) all opera portable editions are too geeky to be viable for wider audience. you have to set this, that, and something else.. and it still uses your hard drive (or it used to, but i think it still does, yep it does "To safe livetime of the USB Device and to increase speed of Opera, the cache-directory is on the harddisk (at Windows temp)") this is beause opera doesnt respect 'memory cache only' and uses HDD anyways simple unzip-and-go experience isnt there “I’d also like to say Markus Obermaier does a great job for Opera to be on a usbstick.”

i’ve tried few portable operas. user experience of them falls short to portable ff (http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable) all opera portable editions are too geeky to be viable for wider audience. you have to set this, that, and something else.. and it still uses your hard drive (or it used to, but i think it still does, yep it does “To safe livetime of the USB Device and to increase speed of Opera, the cache-directory is on the harddisk (at Windows temp)”) this is beause opera doesnt respect ‘memory cache only’ and uses HDD anyways

simple unzip-and-go experience isnt there

]]> By: tqm_z http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html/comment-page-1#comment-69162 tqm_z Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:38:25 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html#comment-69162 Try point your opera to sourceforge.net, download something, and try to swicth mirror... it turn out opera can handle simple mirror switch. Some ajax image preview also may choke an Opera... Try point your opera to sourceforge.net, download something, and try to swicth mirror…
it turn out opera can handle simple mirror switch.

Some ajax image preview also may choke an Opera…

]]> By: LXj http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html/comment-page-1#comment-69152 LXj Fri, 23 Nov 2007 19:26:34 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html#comment-69152 Try using Google Reader with something like Athlon 1000, and you will notice that Opera is the slowest Try using Google Reader with something like Athlon 1000, and you will notice that Opera is the slowest

]]> By: j_sk http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html/comment-page-1#comment-69147 j_sk Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:17:32 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html#comment-69147 @w*/whatever: criticism is constructive when the one who expresses it is not so easily angered. Objective criticism can't even stand any underlying self-anger ,I'd say, for this latter expresses itself before all, hiding the rest. May it be in the form of a written speech. I'm sure Opera work depends on so much configs subjects. Where it works for one, it won't for other one. But that's not an Opera problem. On a xp desktop I encounter (sometimes) unexpected behaviours, like frost screen, not responding, restarting. In cause: google screens sometimes. But on this Vista notebook, I didn't see the shadow of problem since I switched to alpha version, now beta with weekly builds. Yahoo mail beta works fine. Netvibes too. No Google issue. Well, with its highly customizable pretty look, with its amazing speed, with its reliability too, Opera 9.50b just fits all my needs. I'd also like to say Markus Obermaier does a great job for Opera to be on a usbstick. Take a look at its last zip package of 9.5beta version if you can, worthy! @w*/whatever: criticism is constructive when the one who expresses it is not so easily angered. Objective criticism can’t even stand any underlying self-anger ,I’d say, for this latter expresses itself before all, hiding the rest. May it be in the form of a written speech.

I’m sure Opera work depends on so much configs subjects. Where it works for one, it won’t for other one. But that’s not an Opera problem.
On a xp desktop I encounter (sometimes) unexpected behaviours, like frost screen, not responding, restarting. In cause: google screens sometimes.

But on this Vista notebook, I didn’t see the shadow of problem since I switched to alpha version, now beta with weekly builds.
Yahoo mail beta works fine. Netvibes too. No Google issue.
Well, with its highly customizable pretty look, with its amazing speed, with its reliability too, Opera 9.50b just fits all my needs.
I’d also like to say Markus Obermaier does a great job for Opera to be on a usbstick.
Take a look at its last zip package of 9.5beta version if you can, worthy!

]]> By: Øyvind Ø http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html/comment-page-1#comment-69109 Øyvind Ø Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:02:40 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html#comment-69109 I can't really say it is working that fast, but at least it isn't faster in Firefox on my machine. I did change that one setting for you though. See if it is just as slow on your machine now as it was earlier. PS: Also first time you log in there will of course be quite a bit of new feeds for you. This takes quite a bit of resources. Next time you log in the hit on your browser/cpu is not even close to what you feel the first time around. - ØØ - I can’t really say it is working that fast, but at least it isn’t faster in Firefox on my machine. I did change that one setting for you though. See if it is just as slow on your machine now as it was earlier.

PS: Also first time you log in there will of course be quite a bit of new feeds for you. This takes quite a bit of resources. Next time you log in the hit on your browser/cpu is not even close to what you feel the first time around.

- ØØ -

]]> By: Lomi http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html/comment-page-1#comment-69098 Lomi Tue, 20 Nov 2007 17:48:53 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html#comment-69098 Hi Deniel, I say thank you for the answer. I deleted it the cache, you said it, but the Opera does not like it in this manner it I Netvibes my setting. The Opera reacts rather slowly sometimes. (scrolling page, klick tabs, many unread post loading, and automat refresh rss) There is not problem with the opera. only Not liking the filling processes at me is the opera. Send the mirroring Netvibes from my side. You can watch him going on your Opera and test. Sorry for my bad English knowledge :) My Netvibes Test: login: lomax@index.hu password: TestElek Hi Deniel, I say thank you for the answer.
I deleted it the cache, you said it, but the Opera does not like it in this manner it I Netvibes my setting.
The Opera reacts rather slowly sometimes. (scrolling page, klick tabs, many unread post loading, and automat refresh rss)
There is not problem with the opera.
only Not liking the filling processes at me is the opera.

Send the mirroring Netvibes from my side.
You can watch him going on your Opera and test.

Sorry for my bad English knowledge :)

My Netvibes Test:

login: lomax@index.hu
password: TestElek

]]> By: Øyvind Ø http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html/comment-page-1#comment-69090 Øyvind Ø Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:29:54 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html#comment-69090 I'm using Netvibes with no problems too. It works better in Opera than in Firefox for me. If you have that many feeds try to divide them into different tabs, and check the setting "Only load modules for current tab" under the "settings->general settings". That helps a lot on my slow computer. - ØØ - I’m using Netvibes with no problems too. It works better in Opera than in Firefox for me. If you have that many feeds try to divide them into different tabs, and check the setting “Only load modules for current tab” under the “settings->general settings”. That helps a lot on my slow computer.

- ØØ -

]]> By: Daniel Goldman http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html/comment-page-1#comment-69087 Daniel Goldman Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:00:58 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html#comment-69087 Lomi, Netvibes runs fine on my Opera 9.24. Perhaps try deleting the cache (Tools > Delete private data...) Lomi, Netvibes runs fine on my Opera 9.24. Perhaps try deleting the cache (Tools > Delete private data…)

]]> By: Lomi http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html/comment-page-1#comment-69084 Lomi Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:50:14 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html#comment-69084 My opera dies under Netvibes, 100% CPU load. I have 24 tabs and 100 rss. With this compilation unfortunately the opera lies the stomach, and will be unusable :( FF runs away cheerful :S I hope for it something will be a solution, that let me be allowed to use an Opera for Netvibes browsing. My opera dies under Netvibes, 100% CPU load.
I have 24 tabs and 100 rss.
With this compilation unfortunately the opera lies the stomach, and will be unusable :(
FF runs away cheerful :S
I hope for it something will be a solution, that let me be allowed to use an Opera for Netvibes browsing.

]]> By: Daniel Goldman http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html/comment-page-1#comment-69083 Daniel Goldman Mon, 19 Nov 2007 16:01:47 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html#comment-69083 I'm not sure banning is the right thing to do here, as this is an open forum. I do, however, hope that that w* will seriously reconsider his trolling activities -- they certainly aren't constructive. I’m not sure banning is the right thing to do here, as this is an open forum. I do, however, hope that that w* will seriously reconsider his trolling activities — they certainly aren’t constructive.

]]> By: Yeni Setiawan http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html/comment-page-1#comment-69078 Yeni Setiawan Mon, 19 Nov 2007 05:33:48 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/11/ajaxian-browsers-other-than-opera-are-falling-victim-to-the-successes-of-ajax.html#comment-69078 I love Opera for its power to handle as many tabs as I wanted. I visited my favorite image gallery every two week and found many images to view. Using Opera, I just need to open each thumbnail into bigger view on a new tab. It might be 50 tabs or more. Amazingly, there's no memory leakage and my notebook (and Opera itself) still running well, without loosing its processor speed! About Yahoo! Mail beta, I don't use it. I prefer old style Yahoo! Mail :p I love Opera for its power to handle as many tabs as I wanted. I visited my favorite image gallery every two week and found many images to view. Using Opera, I just need to open each thumbnail into bigger view on a new tab. It might be 50 tabs or more.

Amazingly, there’s no memory leakage and my notebook (and Opera itself) still running well, without loosing its processor speed!

About Yahoo! Mail beta, I don’t use it. I prefer old style Yahoo! Mail :p

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