Getting Yahoo Mail beta to work in Opera
8 CommentsPublished September 10th, 2007 9:56 AM EDT By Daniel Goldman
Hallvord Steen, one of our JavaScript experts wrote a detailed blog post on his quest to get Yahoo Mail to work in Opera. His post, which is very technical, highlights our efforts and determination to fix site compatibility issues with Opera.
Last year Hallvord wrote a post here on Opera Watch detailing the issues of site compatibility in Opera.
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that sounds like a wonderful idea,i use yahoo e-maill a lot..go Opera
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Yahoo! Mail support is my biggest issue w/ Opera. Please focus on getting this fixed ASAP.
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there are two hilarious things in this story
a) it would take just under 10 minutes to fix this bug in firebug
b) it is the opera bug that causes yahoo to fail
given that Hallvord is a JS master, that i admire for his skill and dedication, he made it, and finaly found that ****. imagine someone less skilled or less involved fixing this bug. can you?
and now answer yourself why so many pages break in opera.
still don’t think that webdev tools are TOP priority for opera?
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sid: wow, you take selective reading and intepretation to new heights. bravo. oh you have a great sense of humour too.
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“still don’t think that webdev tools are TOP priority for opera?”
There you go again, making comments about Opera’s priorities and such, as if you have inside information.
When are you going to reveal your source inside Opera which gives you all these details about Opera’s internal roadmaps?
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what is selective? that opera modifies content in
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comments? it is a fact.
that js debugger in firebug would have caught that exact place Hallvors found after two days in first or second pass? it is a fact.
story is very informative to people new to hell of opera debugging, but old timers know that debugging-by alerts (lately by console, that i have to use external program to make it always-on-top) mess. and that lack of opera devTools is sole reason that webpages break in opera and will break more and more often.
not all devs are as skilled as Hallvors. truth is, typical webDev is a guy with most probably no more than 1yr experience, rarely more (if you are good with javascript, you can get twice the pay as a C programmer). do you really think, that that guy would manage to find this bug? and fix it after finding it?
so until tools arrive, dont expect low paid students to perform miracles and fix sites that VERY good guys take TWO days to find a bug.. it wont happen. so opera will fail on more and more sites. this is why firebug was SO BIG thing for firefox. it opened advanced webDevelopment for mediocre webdevelopers. thats why most pages dont break in firefox. because it is easy and POSSIBLE in normal conditions to fix them.
people are willing to fix it, but dont expect them to carry on for too long, if there are no tools and hope.
and if you dont get it. it isnt joke.
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Sid: you’re quite right that debug tools need to be top priority. From my point of view both the quality of Opera itself, compatibility with websites and general goodwill in the developer community suffer from the lack of good tools.
We will get those tools, it’s work in progress.
That said I think you exaggerate the usefulness of Firebug a bit
I use Firebug, it has a *great* UI, some technical strengths and some weaknesses and apparent bugs. They are way ahead of us of course, and I look forward to us catching up.