Comments on: PC Pro Magazine calls Opera ‘the only truly alternative browsing choice’

By: suribe

suribe — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 00:27:10 +0000

off topic: vote for Opera in the DesktopLinux poll

http://www.desktoplinux.com/cgi-bin/survey/survey.cgi?id=0813200712407

By: Roberto

Roberto — Sun, 12 Aug 2007 03:33:19 +0000

The same discussion year after year, the users making a lot of good suggestions without getting responses.

The truth is Opera Desktop is not an alternative because it is difficult to use for non technical users (Among some technicals), the article says it is but compared with small UIs/browsers using common engines.

But now that FF 2.0.0.6 renders faster than Opera, without all its compatibility problems (I love how it works with Youtube). The most significant advantage has been defeated, if the things does not change, the same would occur with other “advantages” as the standards commitment was.

By: noro

noro — Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:33:44 +0000

latest example here..

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/findpost.pl?id=2174558

By: Jack Stuard

Jack Stuard — Sat, 04 Aug 2007 06:32:47 +0000

My alternative browsers are IE and FF.

By: doggy

doggy — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 14:37:54 +0000

the trouble about page rendering though, is some browsers are fed the wrong code…

there are so many ‘petty’ site designers out there, who have only tested in FF & IE, and comlpain about why a component has moved a very small amount.. and some who hate it so much that they just block opera!

By: Eddie (W)

Eddie (W) — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:43:23 +0000

Agreed. I was leaving webpages out of my points. Although certainly if a page isn’t rendered correctly, that’s the biggest user experience issue of all.

But let the record show that i was talking about the browser. I *do* want my sites to look and feel the same across all browsers

By: doggy

doggy — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:08:17 +0000

yes, I was talking more about webpages.. the ‘user interface’ part is up to the designer of the browser, and is a **very* complex part..

- If it was simple, there would definately be more than just 3 or 4 browsers out there… (and by this I mean visible, independant ones!!)

By: Eddie (W)

Eddie (W) — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:56:40 +0000

doggy-
I’m not sure what your statement means- but the “…to the site you go to..” implies that your talking about how browsers render web pages. That’s different then what I was talking about. You’re talking about web standards and having each browser maker interpret them… hopefully they do so in the same way and all support open standards. I’m talking about client development, the actual browser chrome features etc. It has nothing to do with the webpage, but everything to with how we keep track, annotate, bookmark, highlight those pages. In otherwords, what *we* as individuals want to do with our browsing experience.

If that’s not your intention, then your statement is unclear.. functionality for what?

By: Jake

Jake — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:55:38 +0000

hmmm….

don’t know if Opera is just an alternative. To me Opera is the browser, fast rendering or not. And there are no alternatives. Believe me, I have been looking.

I max out to about 25 sites I visit, and there is no way I can load, reload, go back and forward on each site quicker than in Opera.

I save about 30 minutes a day, being able to go back and forward without reloading a page.

By: doggy

doggy — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 10:17:37 +0000

“If I wanted a product that looked and worked like everyone else- I’d just use everyone else’s product.”

er…NO - you would be using a product that “looks like a freind” to the site you go to… and you would have the functionality you want, without the bad bits you hate….

By: serious

serious — Thu, 02 Aug 2007 06:57:08 +0000

it sounds like someone pushed some pushed some money into that article no, truely: we all know that opera is cool even without pushing (not like googlefox)

By: GT500

GT500 — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 23:08:21 +0000

Eddie, I agree with you completely. Pleasing the masses isn’t as important as making sure that you don’t mimic everyone else. A product becomes worthless when it loses it’s originality.

By: tokapi

tokapi — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 22:42:10 +0000

Opera definitely an excellent alternative. In the early days of my web surfing activities (late 90’s, early 2000), my favourite browser always be IE. Nevertherless, i’ve already heard about Opera, give it a try but later on, just forgot about it because at that time, the default setting of opera after installation giving me a headache to figure out the features. Also, at that time you have to pay if u want to use Opera without the ads. So i just go back with IE.

After that, when firefox came into market in the late 2003 (if i’m not mistaken :P), i tried firefox but still it’s a no-no for me because my pc will hangs when using it. This resulting me to go back to IE. Throughout these years, i’ve been installing and updating FF and Opera and then forgot about them.. however, it all changed one day. I found out that IE 7 renders some site badly and had to find an alternative browser since then. I try FF, but still i don’t like it because it still make my pc hangs. Then i try out the new opera, and I surprise that it is now free and the default view after installation is more simple and easy to understand. From that day, I’ve always love to use Opera.. with its Speed Dial feature which I favourite the most!

Good job Opera Team.. it’s not only an alternative, its a better and smarter choice

By: Chuck Monroe

Chuck Monroe — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 21:09:34 +0000

@-gary: it kinda has; and with Mozilla’s latest comments about dropping Thunderbird because it does not make money, I wonder what is becoming of the Foundation.

If it were not for the numerous, many excellent, extensions built by Firefox users, Firefox would be just an ok browser if compared with Opera’s out-of-the-box functionality.

Unlike many, this article mentions Opera’s innovation; frankly, in the browser market, Opera ongoingly leads the way. I just long for a wider recognition (and market share).

By: Favorite Browser

Favorite Browser — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 19:14:57 +0000

As I said some time ago ( http://www.favbrowser.com/why-its-not-enough-to-have-all-the-greatest-features/) , with bad or no strategy any browser (even if it’s the best one) sooner or later will fail.