Comments on: Support for BitTorrent to be enhanced with Opera 9.22 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html A blog covering the latest buzz on the Opera browser and its competition. Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:21:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Daniel Goldman http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-66275 Daniel Goldman Tue, 24 Jul 2007 20:36:43 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-66275 Mini Me, see this: http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/how-to-disable-operas-bittorrent-client.html Mini Me, see this: http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/how-to-disable-operas-bittorrent-client.html

]]> By: Mini Me http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-66258 Mini Me Tue, 24 Jul 2007 02:55:41 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-66258 Hello. my only problem is that i can't find a way to make Opera NOT open the BitTorrent downloads. Is there a way that this can be disabled?Thank you. Hello. my only problem is that i can’t find a way to make Opera NOT open the BitTorrent downloads. Is there a way that this can be disabled?Thank you.

]]> By: jonx http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-66055 jonx Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:58:59 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-66055 Hello, the changelog is talking about better support for the silverlight plugin. I could not make it work. Any hints on that? Thanks... Hello, the changelog is talking about better support for the silverlight plugin. I could not make it work. Any hints on that? Thanks…

]]> By: someone :P http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65939 someone :P Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:30:43 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65939 hey i was looking for taht contact u asked us for... and i found this: "Individual staff can be contacted using the following email format: Firstname.lastname@guardian.co.uk" So now you can write him ;) hey i was looking for taht contact u asked us for… and i found this:
“Individual staff can be contacted using the following email format:
Firstname.lastname@guardian.co.uk”

So now you can write him ;)

]]> By: exclipy http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65930 exclipy Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:42:00 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65930 Saying BT support is useless in a browser is like saying FTP support is pointless. Or HTTP file downloads. Why should you have to open another program to download a file from a website? BitTorrent is just another file download protocol that all browsers should support. Saying BT support is useless in a browser is like saying FTP support is pointless. Or HTTP file downloads. Why should you have to open another program to download a file from a website? BitTorrent is just another file download protocol that all browsers should support.

]]> By: Cassidy http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65925 Cassidy Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:41:59 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65925 <i>I agree. Usually we leave BT client open for several days or hours, for downloading or even seeding. Are we supposed to open Opera for that long? How if Opera crash? </i> You clearly don't understand how the BitTorrent protocol works. If Opera crashes all the chunks dowloaded which are corrupted are discarded and downloaded again; the same problem happens when using other clients and the network goes down, system crash or you just stop/pause the torrent. [i]How if the memory usage of Opera exceeds 250MB and no other way to reduce it than to restart Opera?[/i] Since you are running vista you must have 1GB RAM at least so 250MB for Opera is perfectly normal, no need to restart anything and if you do, stop the torrent, close Opera, start it again and then resume the torrent. Not that complex, huh?. I agree. Usually we leave BT client open for several days or hours, for downloading or even seeding. Are we supposed to open Opera for that long? How if Opera crash?

You clearly don’t understand how the BitTorrent protocol works. If Opera crashes all the chunks dowloaded which are corrupted are discarded and downloaded again; the same problem happens when using other clients and the network goes down, system crash or you just stop/pause the torrent.

[i]How if the memory usage of Opera exceeds 250MB and no other way to reduce it than to restart Opera?[/i]

Since you are running vista you must have 1GB RAM at least so 250MB for Opera is perfectly normal, no need to restart anything and if you do, stop the torrent, close Opera, start it again and then resume the torrent. Not that complex, huh?.

]]> By: Almost http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65924 Almost Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:03:30 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65924 The point of BT in the browser is convenience, ease of use. Maybe not everyone is a "real user" and doesn't want to install a separate BT client. They can be very complicated, too. The point of BT in the browser is convenience, ease of use. Maybe not everyone is a “real user” and doesn’t want to install a separate BT client. They can be very complicated, too.

]]> By: Rhonnysparks http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65921 Rhonnysparks Tue, 17 Jul 2007 07:18:39 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65921 Opera's BT client is perfect for small downloads and/or for the casual BT user. In fact downloading a BT file in Opera isn't that different to downloading any other file. I've personally used Opera to download large files and have left it running for long periods of time. The memory usage or stability wasn't the problem (well not in windows - in linux it would randomly crash now and again), the main problem I had was as the file neared to an end, the speed would dramatically drop down and it would take ages to actually finish the thing - hopefully this has been fixed in the latest release. But the main reason frequent/power BT users would use uTorrent/Azureus over Opera is because well Opera's BT client is pretty much featureless. That and I do notice speed differences (again will check out the latest build to see improvements). Personally I would really love to see the Opera team have a shot at a full feature BT client. I mean uTorrent is such a great program and it's only 220KB, imagine what Opera could do! The way to do it would be to keep the current client (I think it's really good for novice BT users) but have a download advanced BT pack (which would include alot of goodies for the power users - kinda like the voice browsing libraries). Just my 2c. Opera’s BT client is perfect for small downloads and/or for the casual BT user. In fact downloading a BT file in Opera isn’t that different to downloading any other file. I’ve personally used Opera to download large files and have left it running for long periods of time. The memory usage or stability wasn’t the problem (well not in windows - in linux it would randomly crash now and again), the main problem I had was as the file neared to an end, the speed would dramatically drop down and it would take ages to actually finish the thing - hopefully this has been fixed in the latest release.

But the main reason frequent/power BT users would use uTorrent/Azureus over Opera is because well Opera’s BT client is pretty much featureless. That and I do notice speed differences (again will check out the latest build to see improvements).

Personally I would really love to see the Opera team have a shot at a full feature BT client. I mean uTorrent is such a great program and it’s only 220KB, imagine what Opera could do! The way to do it would be to keep the current client (I think it’s really good for novice BT users) but have a download advanced BT pack (which would include alot of goodies for the power users - kinda like the voice browsing libraries).

Just my 2c.

]]> By: IceArdor http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65919 IceArdor Tue, 17 Jul 2007 06:57:39 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65919 People like me might want to occasionally use Opera's bittorrent function. I don't hardly use it, because I use it for downloading a hand-put-together movie clip from someone's personal website that's been heavily dugg, or if a new Opera release comes out, or other small reasons like that. It makes the most sense to have it integrated into the browser. You just click the torrent link as though it were a link to the actual download. Opera handles it seemelessly, as though it were an actual download. It means I don't have to download, install, and manage another piece of software. It's one less piece of software to clutter my registry or potentially infect my computer. For a person like me, it makes total sense to use a bittorrent client embedded right into the browser. I couldn't be happier. I would have never used bittorrent if it required downloading a seperate application for it, just like I didn't use feeds until I discovered Opera 7.54, which supported feeds. I would never download a dedicated feed client. It's too seperated from my browsing. People like me might want to occasionally use Opera’s bittorrent function. I don’t hardly use it, because I use it for downloading a hand-put-together movie clip from someone’s personal website that’s been heavily dugg, or if a new Opera release comes out, or other small reasons like that. It makes the most sense to have it integrated into the browser. You just click the torrent link as though it were a link to the actual download. Opera handles it seemelessly, as though it were an actual download. It means I don’t have to download, install, and manage another piece of software. It’s one less piece of software to clutter my registry or potentially infect my computer.

For a person like me, it makes total sense to use a bittorrent client embedded right into the browser. I couldn’t be happier. I would have never used bittorrent if it required downloading a seperate application for it, just like I didn’t use feeds until I discovered Opera 7.54, which supported feeds. I would never download a dedicated feed client. It’s too seperated from my browsing.

]]> By: yuku http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65917 yuku Tue, 17 Jul 2007 02:59:57 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65917 >>3 I agree. Usually we leave BT client open for several days or hours, for downloading or even seeding. Are we supposed to open Opera for that long? How if Opera crash? How if the memory usage of Opera exceeds 250MB and no other way to reduce it than to restart Opera? >>3

I agree. Usually we leave BT client open for several days or hours, for downloading or even seeding. Are we supposed to open Opera for that long? How if Opera crash? How if the memory usage of Opera exceeds 250MB and no other way to reduce it than to restart Opera?

]]> By: coin http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65912 coin Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:20:56 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65912 "I’m not sure if I get the point of having BT in a browser. No real user is gonna pick Opera over uTorrent/Azureus." I think the point is for people like me who really aren't real bit torrent users. If it weren't for the torrent support in Opera, I probably would never have used bit torrent to download anything. With it included, I'll usually use it over traditional download methods when given the option. It's just easier than installing a client I might use once every 6 weeks and hoping I remember each time whether I installed on my desktop or my laptop, my windows boot or my linux one, did I put the shortcut in the default location, or something else, etc. “I’m not sure if I get the point of having BT in a browser. No real user is gonna pick Opera over uTorrent/Azureus.”

I think the point is for people like me who really aren’t real bit torrent users. If it weren’t for the torrent support in Opera, I probably would never have used bit torrent to download anything. With it included, I’ll usually use it over traditional download methods when given the option. It’s just easier than installing a client I might use once every 6 weeks and hoping I remember each time whether I installed on my desktop or my laptop, my windows boot or my linux one, did I put the shortcut in the default location, or something else, etc.

]]> By: serious http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65902 serious Mon, 16 Jul 2007 19:04:38 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65902 arr, you allready have a 9.5 build. grrrr. want one myself ;) arr, you allready have a 9.5 build. grrrr. want one myself ;)

]]> By: ak http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65901 ak Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:46:41 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65901 I'm not sure if I get the point of having BT in a browser. No real user is gonna pick Opera over uTorrent/Azureus. I’m not sure if I get the point of having BT in a browser. No real user is gonna pick Opera over uTorrent/Azureus.

]]> By: Daniel Goldman http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65898 Daniel Goldman Mon, 16 Jul 2007 17:48:50 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65898 kyleabaker, I believe Opera was the first browser to support BT. kyleabaker, I believe Opera was the first browser to support BT.

]]> By: kyleabaker http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65897 kyleabaker Mon, 16 Jul 2007 17:17:44 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/07/support-for-bittorrent-to-be-enhanced-with-opera-922.html#comment-65897 Opera is the only torrent client I use now (since they've fixed several problems and it seems to work great now). However, just out of curiosity..what was the first browser to support BitTorrent downloads? The way you worded the fact seems as though there is another browser to support it first, but oddly enough I can't find anything in a quick google search about any other browser (other than Firestorm for Firefox which isn't even a default support and came after Opera's support) Opera is the only torrent client I use now (since they’ve fixed several problems and it seems to work great now). However, just out of curiosity..what was the first browser to support BitTorrent downloads? The way you worded the fact seems as though there is another browser to support it first, but oddly enough I can’t find anything in a quick google search about any other browser (other than Firestorm for Firefox which isn’t even a default support and came after Opera’s support)

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