Comments on: Opera has bigger market share than Firefox in Russia

By: Akustik

Akustik — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:16:52 +0000

This stat considers users with RUSSIAN IP only… this is more real stat.
for jul’07:
http://www.liveinternet.ru/stat/ru/browsers.html?date=2007-07-31&period=month&slice=ru&id=18&id=17&id=23&id=22&id=21&show=%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B8%D1%82%D1%8C+%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%84%D0%B8%D0%BA&per_page=20&report=browsers.html%3Fslice%3Dru%3Bdate%3D2007-07-31%3Bperiod%3Dmonth

By: Alexander

Alexander — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 10:18:20 +0000

2 serious & jghv,
That’s not as bad as that with the illegal software nowadaya. Stereotypes are hard to cope with, huh? Especially when there’s no wish to.
I’m sure that Opera’s share is about to radically grow in Russia because of its current freeware for PC status. Opera has always been cool and slick but shareware made it difficult for more people to fall in love with.
As for me, Opera’s biggest advantage is much more optimized memory usage.

By: jghv

jghv — Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:37:09 +0000

They know what communism is in Russia…

By: Meh

Meh — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 09:41:55 +0000

Opera’s UI is known to be faster and smoother than Firefox since it isn’t weighed down by XUL.

By: Eladio Buente

Eladio Buente — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:18:32 +0000

Eddie (W): Well, I guess you all understand the page load test. It just timed the page load from an empty cache five times and the average is reported. Very easy to replicate yourself.

The scroll test is just my subjective judgment of the scroll responsiveness, and so is the text selection responsiveness (which is not that good in Opera’s case).

By: Meh

Meh — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:47:27 +0000

Some random, unsupported “test” by an anonymous guy on a blog claiming that Firefox is faster sure carries a lot of weight!

By: Eddie (W)

Eddie (W) — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:14:42 +0000

Eladio Buente-

“A small test” indeed. That has to be the most vague set of test results I’ve seen in quite a while.

By: Eladio Buente

Eladio Buente — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 10:36:30 +0000

chess: Unfortunately that is not the case, I did a small test to check load time, scroll responsiveness and selection responsiveness in a large html document (http://www.w3.org/html/wg/html5/). Here are the results for Opera 9.22, Firefox 2.0.0.6, IE 7, Safari 3.0.2:

Load time in seconds (average of 5):
Opera: 18.9
FF: 15.7
IE: 29.1
Safari: 15.6

Scroll responsiveness:
Opera: Medium
FF: High
IE: Low
Safari: Medium

Document selection responsiveness:
Opera: Low
FF: High
IE: Medium
Safari: Medium

So Opera have some optimization work to do before it could compare itself to Firefox and Safari in terms of page load time and responsiveness.

By: Kai

Kai — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:50:40 +0000

Good for you people, I just hope same happens in France (Firefox’s crazy people there).

By: chesss

chesss — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 01:41:33 +0000

SAme here in India, opera is very popular, thanks to its sheer speed(both browsing and UI)
To feel the difference between Opera and ff open a 20 mb html file in both, firefox simply chokes and hangs, while Opera doesn’t even notices any change

By: philry4n

philry4n — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 23:26:32 +0000

Opera’s ability to show only cached images on a per-tab basis, no doubt helped make Opera a winner.

that’s my all time favourite opera feature ^^

By: FataL

FataL — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 22:20:14 +0000

More ex-USSR (Russia, Ukraine) stats:
http://stat.yandex.ru/stats.xml?ReportID=2857&ProjectID=0
http://stat.mail.ru/?stat=useragents
http://old.en.ranking.com.ua/?page=Ranks:RanksPage&stat=2|OW
http://index.bigmir.net/users

By: wupperbayer

wupperbayer — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:44:00 +0000

@Ilya: Wow, even if Opera’s below Firefox’ market share, 12% are really good. Wish that would be the case all over the world (and not only in most parts of eastern Europe, and in some parts of western & central Europe)

By: GT500

GT500 — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:41:37 +0000

Well HotLog is blocked by some of the Adblock lists for Firefox’s Adblock extension, so that could be partly to blame.

By: Ilya Shpan'kov

Ilya Shpan'kov — Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:30:00 +0000

So, unfortunately it’s not true. The more real statistic data at the SpyLog.
http://gs.spylog.ru/r/?dayFrom=1&monthFrom=6&yearFrom=2007&dayFor=31&monthFor=7&yearFor=2007&visitors=on&browser_name=__all__&browser_version=__nothing__&order=visitors&desc=1&inner=0&reportId=10&categoryId=1&representationType=table&x=22&y=5

Ilya Shpan’kov
Russian Opera Team