Do Apple fans know that other phones exist in the market (you know, not locked, not with a price of 500$+plan=>2000$ , with mms, etc) and millions of people around the world use these kind of phones?. Or is it just that because they do not have a friggin’ apple icon do not count at all?. Do Apple fans realize that these phones are actually Opera’s main target, that is, the phones 95% of users have?.

Yes. Can you hold off on the strawman tactics for just one clause or two?

Looks like Opera already did that with the Wii browser AND Opera Mini, and Nokia with their S60 browser.

No, Opera made the products, but they didn’t make the “breakthrough products that actually had an impact on the world and changed the way people looked at that respective category of products”. I don’t even know how to begin arguing this point, it’s pretty self evident from the press coverage, to presence in popular culture, to simple word of mouth. Deservedly or not, the iPhone has the buzz, and Opera’s got one or two newspaper articles a month.

2 million users, based on what? LOL! Apple fanboys…

Based on my quick research. I typed opera mini million users into Google and found Opera had announced 2 million Opera Mini users in April.

Haha… Apple fanboys. Funny every single time!

But why? Do you think the iPhone will not sell ten million? That’s the number Jobs has said he aspires to sell, and recently reiterated in an article that he thinks it’s very achievable. Considering that it seems like Apple have already sold a million phones in one territory, in one week, in light of shortages, in light of high prices and contract restrictions.. it seems very achievable.

And unless those Opera Mini numbers have ballooned four or fivefold since three months ago, I maintain that the iPhone’s browser is a huge threat to Opera and is pressuring them into irrelevancy. Leaving them in the dust, if you will.

And so I found this blog post rather frivolous, and would be far more interested in some postings that actually look at how Opera will be affected by the iPhone and how they plan on responding to it. But I hold little hope for this as this blog seems to have lost most of its editorial integrity since the owner joined Opera.

opera, sorry to say, s*x at selling its products. most people in my company have 3G mobiles, lots of them use internet in their phones, but almost noone use opera mini. why? because they dont know about it. if firefox had working mobile browser they’d know. and they ofc know about iphone, and will check it (cost is not a factor here). they mostly use firfox at work, because opera doesnt work with corporate networks, but ive stated it otherplace

opera should promote outside its user base, this page, like many other opera promotional stuff (official, or fan based) is targeted at users that already use opera - quite a waste of time.

imagine top-level manager seeing opera ad with that super-opera-man in panties.. is he going to be convinced? no. is he going to ever ever use opera after seeing something so stupid? hell no.

marketing is the key - the more they talk about you, the better, it doesnt realy matter if it is good or bad. opera could have a nice press coverage with Wii Internet Channel, but theive failed. it is ‘wii internet channel’ not ‘opera browser for wii’. oportunity lost.

iphone, no matter how bad is there has a trumph that is yet to be beaten. it is apple. apple is the coolest of cool brand in the world. opera has no brand realy..

OM market share in June was 0,21%, meaning every 500th web page, or nearly a billion, was accessed using OM…

Indeed, nice to have Apple promoting mobile browsing, however, the iPhone way is far too expensive to have an impact…

OM, the one and only, does the trick faster and cheaper, thus usage will continue to grow…

look at
gsmarena.com
mobileburn.com
engadget.com
techdigest.tv

for real coverage

Big iPhone headache: Waiting for AT&T activation
http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9738300-7.html

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=40694

http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/30/iphone-pottymouth-friendly

http://www.mobileburn.com/gallery.jsp?Id=3519&source=HOMETOP

http://www.techdigest.tv/

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/06/30/first_apple_iphone_review/

they were the breakthrough products that actually had an impact on the world and changed the way people looked at that respective category of products.

Looks like Opera already did that with the Wii browser AND Opera Mini, and Nokia with their S60 browser.

Sorry to say, but Opera mini has not had anywhere near that impact. (Congrats! 2 million users!

2 million users, based on what? LOL! Apple fanboys…

If Apple sells 10 million like Jobs thinks it will? Opera’s left in the dust.

Haha… Apple fanboys. Funny every single time!

Do Apple fans know that other phones exist in the market (you know, not locked, not with a price of 500$+plan=>2000$ , with mms, etc) and millions of people around the world use these kind of phones?. Or is it just that because they do not have a friggin’ apple icon do not count at all?. Do Apple fans realize that these phones are actually Opera’s main target, that is, the phones 95% of users have?.

For christ sake, cut the fanboyism out and try to understand that millions of people:

a) Don’t give a rat’s *** about the iPhone.

b) Won’t buy a phone which costs more than a PC and doesn’t offer what they need.

c) Simply don’t have the money.

That’s it, the iPhone can be a total success but it won’t change the fact that it’s an elite and locked piece of hardware. So no, not everyone will go nuts and buy an iPhone just like not everyone buys a Mercedes (in this case without airbags).

But I love OperaMini. Loaded it up my w880i and it’s fantastic. Showed it around my work, let the w880i float around the office and lots of oohs and aahs.

And to the point of this, doing it on a 3G network on the phone it’s very fast but even when I fall out of the 3G back into old faithful zone, it is still very much faster than dialup speed. Pages load instead of in 1-10seconds in 5-30 seconds.

The thought of browsing on a mobile has never been appealing because it was always such a slow fraught thing and until Apple get around that it’ll be a cool gadget that people will buy so they’ll make the money, but it won’t become too largely used a web platform.

Sure, but this is along the lines of the argument that “Mac OS X is only good because Apple makes it for a specific set of computers.” Um.. so? Doesn’t change the fact Opera mini suffers from a lack of integration with the hardware it runs on, and all indications are pointing to this being the single reason why iPhone’s Safari is going to surpass it in userbase, mindshare and quality.

SuitCase,

Are you kidding?

It’s totally different, when you develope software for one product and when you do that for all the mobile phones.

I wonder how Opera Mini developers could use that iPhone CPU speed and memory, I am sure well better than Apple devs.

I actually see no point to argue as you don’t really understand that or just love iPhone/Apple too much and ignore all the facts.

- and has anyone tried getting Operamini onto the iPhone?? results from that, I’d like to see.. unlike comparing apples with cucumbers…

wsssat you say? the apple isnt here yet??? more empty talk then….