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	<title>Comments on: Mozilla CEO: Firefox will move to mobile phones</title>
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		<title>By: David Naylor</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2007/05/mozilla-ceo-firefox-will-move-to-mobile-phones.html#comment-60686</link>
		<dc:creator>David Naylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 15:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"A bit interesting for her to get caught in an interview like this when she doesn’t know all the details."

Yeah, agreed. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A bit interesting for her to get caught in an interview like this when she doesn’t know all the details.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, agreed. <img src='http://operawatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2007/05/mozilla-ceo-firefox-will-move-to-mobile-phones.html#comment-60459</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 04:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62;&#62;&#62;Can’t you peeps take a joke? Besides, when i tried giving you some serious arguments above (see “This dude”) nobody listened apart from Kelson.

Umm, a joke is supposed to be funny. That was really just annoying babble. The discussion beforehand was at least contributing some good points aside from fanboyism.

Anyway.... I think it was the sense that Mitchell made the comments during the interview and its overall tone that set some people off. It starts off by saying that all phone browsers suck, but without mentioning why. From what I've seen, it's mainly the constraints on the devices. The Mozilla crew will have a fun time dealing with that.

Also, I guess knowing that Mitchell is a lawyer kind of puts things into more perspective. She must work on mainly management/legal right? A bit interesting for her to get caught in an interview like this when she doesn't know all the details. :D

Finally, from what I've seen, the projects to get Firefox on a phone seem more focused on just content instead of a full browser. More like downloading multiple things to a phone to get different pieces of information when you can simply go to a webpage. Sounds more difficult if that is what's being planned in the Mozilla labs.

Anyway, hope I picked up on some of your points David. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;Can’t you peeps take a joke? Besides, when i tried giving you some serious arguments above (see “This dude”) nobody listened apart from Kelson.</p>
<p>Umm, a joke is supposed to be funny. That was really just annoying babble. The discussion beforehand was at least contributing some good points aside from fanboyism.</p>
<p>Anyway&#8230;. I think it was the sense that Mitchell made the comments during the interview and its overall tone that set some people off. It starts off by saying that all phone browsers suck, but without mentioning why. From what I&#8217;ve seen, it&#8217;s mainly the constraints on the devices. The Mozilla crew will have a fun time dealing with that.</p>
<p>Also, I guess knowing that Mitchell is a lawyer kind of puts things into more perspective. She must work on mainly management/legal right? A bit interesting for her to get caught in an interview like this when she doesn&#8217;t know all the details. <img src='http://operawatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Finally, from what I&#8217;ve seen, the projects to get Firefox on a phone seem more focused on just content instead of a full browser. More like downloading multiple things to a phone to get different pieces of information when you can simply go to a webpage. Sounds more difficult if that is what&#8217;s being planned in the Mozilla labs.</p>
<p>Anyway, hope I picked up on some of your points David. <img src='http://operawatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: David Naylor</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2007/05/mozilla-ceo-firefox-will-move-to-mobile-phones.html#comment-60318</link>
		<dc:creator>David Naylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 19:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can't you peeps take a joke? Besides, when i tried giving you some serious arguments above (see "This dude") nobody listened apart from Kelson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t you peeps take a joke? Besides, when i tried giving you some serious arguments above (see &#8220;This dude&#8221;) nobody listened apart from Kelson.</p>
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		<title>By: David Naylor</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2007/05/mozilla-ceo-firefox-will-move-to-mobile-phones.html#comment-60311</link>
		<dc:creator>David Naylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 19:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm just waiting for someone to pop up and say hey, we're trying to have a fud war here... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just waiting for someone to pop up and say hey, we&#8217;re trying to have a fud war here&#8230; <img src='http://operawatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Goldman</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2007/05/mozilla-ceo-firefox-will-move-to-mobile-phones.html#comment-60309</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Goldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 19:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please let's not attack anyone personally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please let&#8217;s not attack anyone personally.</p>
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		<title>By: Static</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2007/05/mozilla-ceo-firefox-will-move-to-mobile-phones.html#comment-60308</link>
		<dc:creator>Static</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 19:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naylor is apparently quite the Firefox fanboy.  His website has the logo crammed right in your face, after all.

The immaturity shown here by him pretty much sums up that of the majority of the Firefox community.  If you can't prove Firefox is better, then just be as annoying as possible.  They taught him well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naylor is apparently quite the Firefox fanboy.  His website has the logo crammed right in your face, after all.</p>
<p>The immaturity shown here by him pretty much sums up that of the majority of the Firefox community.  If you can&#8217;t prove Firefox is better, then just be as annoying as possible.  They taught him well.</p>
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		<title>By: David Naylor</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2007/05/mozilla-ceo-firefox-will-move-to-mobile-phones.html#comment-60303</link>
		<dc:creator>David Naylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 19:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I'll just have to post another one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;ll just have to post another one.</p>
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		<title>By: Tadaaah!</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2007/05/mozilla-ceo-firefox-will-move-to-mobile-phones.html#comment-60296</link>
		<dc:creator>Tadaaah!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 19:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dale

&lt;blockquote&gt;Opera has made quite a few dumb moves itself which I consider FUD at its best: remember the whole PCMagazine award fiasco, for example.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
which turned out to be a mistake. They retracted and apologized.

Has Mozilla retracted any of its FUD against Opera? Nope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dale</p>
<blockquote><p>Opera has made quite a few dumb moves itself which I consider FUD at its best: remember the whole PCMagazine award fiasco, for example.</p></blockquote>
<p>which turned out to be a mistake. They retracted and apologized.</p>
<p>Has Mozilla retracted any of its FUD against Opera? Nope.</p>
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		<title>By: David Naylor</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2007/05/mozilla-ceo-firefox-will-move-to-mobile-phones.html#comment-60234</link>
		<dc:creator>David Naylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 15:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So I'll just kill it off with a few useless comments.

Never fails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I&#8217;ll just kill it off with a few useless comments.</p>
<p>Never fails.</p>
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		<title>By: David Naylor</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2007/05/mozilla-ceo-firefox-will-move-to-mobile-phones.html#comment-60233</link>
		<dc:creator>David Naylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 15:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like all endless web browser fanboy discussions...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like all endless web browser fanboy discussions&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Naylor</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2007/05/mozilla-ceo-firefox-will-move-to-mobile-phones.html#comment-60230</link>
		<dc:creator>David Naylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 15:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole discussion is retarded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole discussion is retarded.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhonnysparks</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2007/05/mozilla-ceo-firefox-will-move-to-mobile-phones.html#comment-60226</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhonnysparks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 15:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite="Tadaah!"&gt;Opera Mini is cut down.

Opera Mobile uses the same rendering engine as Opera Desktop.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

yes I know that, but from a feature point of view it is cut down, but that's to be expected (heck, what good are mouse gestures on a phone?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="Tadaah!"><p>Opera Mini is cut down.</p>
<p>Opera Mobile uses the same rendering engine as Opera Desktop.</p></blockquote>
<p>yes I know that, but from a feature point of view it is cut down, but that&#8217;s to be expected (heck, what good are mouse gestures on a phone?)</p>
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		<title>By: olli</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2007/05/mozilla-ceo-firefox-will-move-to-mobile-phones.html#comment-60165</link>
		<dc:creator>olli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 12:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dale: If it was the other way around I wouldnt reply here in shame of us doing something that was soo obvious to backfire ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dale: If it was the other way around I wouldnt reply here in shame of us doing something that was soo obvious to backfire <img src='http://operawatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Aditya</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2007/05/mozilla-ceo-firefox-will-move-to-mobile-phones.html#comment-60142</link>
		<dc:creator>Aditya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 11:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't understand whats the big deal about Opera Mini not being full fledged web browser? It opens all required web sites doesn't it? 
Plus being small its easy to load my cell phones with low memory and due to its specially rendered web page it uses way too less data. Which is very helpful when you browse a lot on mobile with costly GPRS plans. 

To be honest I have never ever opened builtin web browser of my Nokia 6630 ever since I installed Opera Mini, and so have many of my friends to whom I introduced to Opera Mini</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand whats the big deal about Opera Mini not being full fledged web browser? It opens all required web sites doesn&#8217;t it?<br />
Plus being small its easy to load my cell phones with low memory and due to its specially rendered web page it uses way too less data. Which is very helpful when you browse a lot on mobile with costly GPRS plans. </p>
<p>To be honest I have never ever opened builtin web browser of my Nokia 6630 ever since I installed Opera Mini, and so have many of my friends to whom I introduced to Opera Mini</p>
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		<title>By: Dale</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2007/05/mozilla-ceo-firefox-will-move-to-mobile-phones.html#comment-60127</link>
		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 11:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Olli

Ok, if you say so I take it. Then again, you are an Opera employee so I wouldn't expect otherwise; it's not like you would admit that something is a well thought FUD campaign from Opera. :p

Anyway, this whole "Mozilla on Mobile" thing did not have a good start (the Minimo guy making things up about Opera not being as portable as Minimo; more than 2 years later Minimo is nothing more than a toy project so go figure) and it's getting worse now that the CEO is making bogus claims. Now we only need Asa's insightful comments to get the whole package...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Olli</p>
<p>Ok, if you say so I take it. Then again, you are an Opera employee so I wouldn&#8217;t expect otherwise; it&#8217;s not like you would admit that something is a well thought FUD campaign from Opera. :p</p>
<p>Anyway, this whole &#8220;Mozilla on Mobile&#8221; thing did not have a good start (the Minimo guy making things up about Opera not being as portable as Minimo; more than 2 years later Minimo is nothing more than a toy project so go figure) and it&#8217;s getting worse now that the CEO is making bogus claims. Now we only need Asa&#8217;s insightful comments to get the whole package&#8230;</p>
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