Comments on: Dreamweaver uses Opera’s Small-Screen Rendering technology to preview webpages for mobile phones

By: chat

chat — Mon, 07 May 2007 11:50:54 +0000

It is very interesting, i dont think that the adobe use the Opera’s Small-Screen Rendering technology. Than these product very good

By: ResearchWizard

ResearchWizard — Sat, 05 May 2007 15:15:36 +0000

I’m kind of confused now.

Adobes Creative Suite (CS, CS2 + CS3) exists as several editions each as bundle of several applications. One of these applications is Dreamweaver which is included in some bundles since CS3.
Dreamweaver was formerly developed by Macromedia which was acquired by Adobe Systems in 2005. Adobe bundled Dreamweaver beginning with Creative Suite version 2.3

Opera partnered with both companies in aspects of integration of the Opera rendering engine in their products:

2002 with Macromedia to include Opera’s rendering engine with a wide range of Macromedia’s Web development products - but only for Mac platform (Opera’s press release)

2003 with Adobe “to include Opera’s rendering engine in future Adobe product releases, for the Macintosh and Windows operating systems” (Opera’s press release)
this seems to be the preparing agreement for the content of the next announcement:

2005 with Adobe - “Opera browser is now integrated in Adobe® Creative Suite 2″ which “will use Opera as the engine for the majority of content manipulation, powering Adobe GoLive® CS 2, Adobe Photoshop® CS 2, and other components”
- this sounds quite thrilling to me but the further press release gives the impression that Opera might be only used for a pretty small part of Adobe’s applications:
“helping developers create optimal Web pages”
“Web designers have the ability to view how Web page content will look on a small screen”
(Opera’s press release)

Now I have more questions than answers:
1) Does Dreamweaver use Opera’s rendering engine only on Mac?
2) Does Dreamweaver use Opera’s rendering engine only for SSR?
3) Does Photoshop use Opera’s rendering engine in normal editing mode (”content manipulation”)?
4) Is Opera’s part in any of this products “just” for SSR preview?

While already a yes for question 4 would be nice it would be really outstanding if the answer to question 3 is yes. Anyway I think it would be a good idea to spread word about Opera integration in Photoshop (if still true).

By: DStorey

DStorey — Fri, 04 May 2007 14:23:53 +0000

Dreamweaver uses its own propitiatory engine, at least for the visual editing mode. It would be a lot of work to change to switch engines. I’m not sure about the preview mode.

GoLive is now dead, as far as I know.

By: cap

cap — Fri, 04 May 2007 10:00:21 +0000

@tomah

Seek and you shall find:

http://www.newsweb.no/index.jsp?messageId=139344

By: tomah

tomah — Fri, 04 May 2007 08:22:22 +0000

Daniel, the upgades are not free, and as such, they are a new product, it like declining to publish on a motorola phone, since they publishedlast years model.. however its posiibly that adobe demands limited press on this..

By: Daniel Goldman

Daniel Goldman — Fri, 04 May 2007 03:44:03 +0000

IceArdor, I believe Opera is also used for desktop mode rendering.

By: Daniel Goldman

Daniel Goldman — Fri, 04 May 2007 01:39:53 +0000

tomah, I guess the reason a press release wasn’t published is because Opera was also shipped with CS2, so in a sense this isn’t new news, other than the fact that Adobe released an upgrade.

By: GT500

GT500 — Fri, 04 May 2007 01:30:37 +0000

Cool. I guess that’s one less reason to hate Dreamweaver.

For the record, I hate any form of IDE that auto-generates code, so it’s not just Dreamweaver. Just give me a text editor with syntax highlighting, a command prompt, and a compiler…

By: tomah

tomah — Fri, 04 May 2007 00:56:35 +0000

spread this EVERWHERE..its gonna be a big deal

By: tomah

tomah — Fri, 04 May 2007 00:48:16 +0000

this shipped on april 16! why has there been no press release from the company! are they keeping it a secret? I think they are obliged to communicate this through the stock exchange also

By: IceArdor

IceArdor — Fri, 04 May 2007 00:19:48 +0000

It seems like a negligably small use of the Opera browser, to just put in the SSR engine. I would have been more impressed if Dreamweaver used Opera’s core to preview and test the appearance, performance, and behavior of webpages in both mobile environments and desktop environments. Using Opera’s CSS and JS rules and entire rendering engine for everything would have been nice….