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	<title>Comments on: Update: Opera Mini beats Safari, Netscape and Mozilla combined in Ukraine</title>
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		<title>By: DMXell</title>
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		<dc:creator>DMXell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. I'm just saying that, by analysis, Opera is the better choice. However, there are a re pluses to others. Flock, for example, allows quick access to Photobucket and Flickr, so my friend who's the photojournalist on our newspaper staff at my school uses that.

Firefox has, obviously, more extensions. So if someone likes one of them and cannot live without it, and Opera doesn't have it, than they'd like Firefox over Opera. So others have their perks, but for the average user, Opera will always be better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. I&#8217;m just saying that, by analysis, Opera is the better choice. However, there are a re pluses to others. Flock, for example, allows quick access to Photobucket and Flickr, so my friend who&#8217;s the photojournalist on our newspaper staff at my school uses that.</p>
<p>Firefox has, obviously, more extensions. So if someone likes one of them and cannot live without it, and Opera doesn&#8217;t have it, than they&#8217;d like Firefox over Opera. So others have their perks, but for the average user, Opera will always be better.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 17:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DMXell, I'm just wondering: if someone tries out Opera thoroughly, but still prefers another browser (Firefox, Flock, Konquerer, whatever), does that mean that the research was done improperly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DMXell, I&#8217;m just wondering: if someone tries out Opera thoroughly, but still prefers another browser (Firefox, Flock, Konquerer, whatever), does that mean that the research was done improperly?</p>
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		<title>By: IceArdor</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2007/04/update-opera-mini-beats-safari-netscape-and-mozilla-combined-in-ukraine.html#comment-56995</link>
		<dc:creator>IceArdor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 04:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@DMXell
Yeah. I don't like fanboyism of people who haven't given Opera a fair chance for at least a week. At least I'm glad I can browse more efficiently than those Firefox or IE users. And I'm happy because even with Opera in the minority, I convinced my school to install Opera on about a third of its PCs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DMXell<br />
Yeah. I don&#8217;t like fanboyism of people who haven&#8217;t given Opera a fair chance for at least a week. At least I&#8217;m glad I can browse more efficiently than those Firefox or IE users. And I&#8217;m happy because even with Opera in the minority, I convinced my school to install Opera on about a third of its PCs.</p>
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		<title>By: DMXell</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2007/04/update-opera-mini-beats-safari-netscape-and-mozilla-combined-in-ukraine.html#comment-56740</link>
		<dc:creator>DMXell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 02:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really wish figures were like these or better for Opera in the US. I'm sick of hearing Firefox users shrug off Opera as an "okay" browser when it's obviously the best if anyone does the proper research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really wish figures were like these or better for Opera in the US. I&#8217;m sick of hearing Firefox users shrug off Opera as an &#8220;okay&#8221; browser when it&#8217;s obviously the best if anyone does the proper research.</p>
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		<title>By: Investor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Investor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 01:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@IceArdor, Indeed... 
However, good news are, these emerging markets are not occupied by IE or others, thus Opera got a fair chance... 

Let Opera Mini lead the charge... for Opera market shares...  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@IceArdor, Indeed&#8230;<br />
However, good news are, these emerging markets are not occupied by IE or others, thus Opera got a fair chance&#8230; </p>
<p>Let Opera Mini lead the charge&#8230; for Opera market shares&#8230;  <img src='http://operawatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: IceArdor</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2007/04/update-opera-mini-beats-safari-netscape-and-mozilla-combined-in-ukraine.html#comment-56730</link>
		<dc:creator>IceArdor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 00:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the CIA World Factbook, Ukraine's estimated population for July 2007 is over 46 million. In 2005, it had 5.278 million internet users, coming out to about 644,000 Opera users. That's a little bit less than the 42 million figure that was ambiguously implied due to bad wording.

But still. 644 THOUSAND users is a ton of people to turn away from when coding for IE. It was just a bit ago that My Opera had fewer members than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the CIA World Factbook, Ukraine&#8217;s estimated population for July 2007 is over 46 million. In 2005, it had 5.278 million internet users, coming out to about 644,000 Opera users. That&#8217;s a little bit less than the 42 million figure that was ambiguously implied due to bad wording.</p>
<p>But still. 644 THOUSAND users is a ton of people to turn away from when coding for IE. It was just a bit ago that My Opera had fewer members than that.</p>
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		<title>By: nb</title>
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		<dc:creator>nb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 20:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again. Who does use overbloated Netscape or Mozilla Suite instead of more compact and roboust Firefox build over the same core?
But anyway, Opera rocks! Opera Mini too :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again. Who does use overbloated Netscape or Mozilla Suite instead of more compact and roboust Firefox build over the same core?<br />
But anyway, Opera rocks! Opera Mini too <img src='http://operawatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Vitaliy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vitaliy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello from Ukraine !
We love Opera ! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello from Ukraine !<br />
We love Opera ! <img src='http://operawatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Martin Hansen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This data also shows the importance for web developers to test their sites and web applications in the Opera browser. Do you want to turn away more than 12% of Ukraine, a population of 42 million?
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So true, I hear developers/designers all the time say: "but opera has only about 1% of the market".

But when you are developing international sites you can't rely on wordwide numbers. Because then you will be giving a lot of users in ukraine a secondary experience(or perhaps even a non-working service, ehem google?) and potentially loose them. 

Developers should not decide what browsers to support, marketing people should!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This data also shows the importance for web developers to test their sites and web applications in the Opera browser. Do you want to turn away more than 12% of Ukraine, a population of 42 million?<br />
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<p>So true, I hear developers/designers all the time say: &#8220;but opera has only about 1% of the market&#8221;.</p>
<p>But when you are developing international sites you can&#8217;t rely on wordwide numbers. Because then you will be giving a lot of users in ukraine a secondary experience(or perhaps even a non-working service, ehem google?) and potentially loose them. </p>
<p>Developers should not decide what browsers to support, marketing people should!</p>
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