Comments on: Update: How to make Google services Opera-friendly

By: Daniel Goldman

Daniel Goldman — Sun, 03 Jun 2007 17:59:53 +0000

paul maul, this problem was fixed in the internal builds of Opera 9.5.

By: paul maul

paul maul — Fri, 01 Jun 2007 20:26:54 +0000

The problems aren’t with Google. The problems are with Opera. Opera is unfit for dynamic web applications. Opera has had a bug for *several years* regarding the way it miscalculates page scroll height. Opera cuts off content, and there is no workaround. The zoom functions exacerbate the problem, making Opera unacceptable for business or government use because it destroys accessibility for the disabled. Opera does not have proper dynamic rendering of pages, so it is unfit for browsing heavily dynamic content. Period. Complaints to Google are misdirected — they should be directed at the negligent Opera developers who have ignored very serious problems such as this for *years*. The bugs in Opera make developing web apps for it more time consuming and expensive than developing for IE. Like it or not, that’s the hard truth.

By: Donzi

Donzi — Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:04:55 +0000

Thanx Daniel for this update
I use Opera as my main browser for many years now

I am also a great fan of Google and their online apps, so I am forced to use an alternative browser to use them properly

I settled for Flock and I only run Google apps and nothing else

The script described here did not work for me - GMAIL takes ages to load and Calendar looks “funny”

By: illiad

illiad — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 10:17:02 +0000

If sites were made to work with Opera **first**, then tweaked to work with FF, and then the bugs in IE, it would be a lot simpler!!

The problem is they do it the other way around, so the tweaks for IE make it difficult for Opera…

By: Martin Hansen

Martin Hansen — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 09:29:39 +0000

I can “sort of” understand Googles lacking support for Opera when you look at the wordwide market share.

But you can’t look at those numbers alone. Like the post after this one; where it says Ukraine has 14.7% opera users. Ukraine is a growing internet market and blocking that many users in a whole country from your services is not a good market strategy.

But I guess Google will fix their Opera support when they come out of beta, like maps.

By: IceArdor

IceArdor — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 00:36:57 +0000

Thanks for the updatel Daniel. It’s nice to know that in the future Opera will work better with Google. For the time being, yay for userjs!

By: Daniel Goldman

Daniel Goldman — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:04:54 +0000

Gaervern, to enable user JavaScript, use Tools > Preferences > Advanced > Content > JavaScript options, and select the directory where you will put your User JavaScript files.

By: Gaervern

Gaervern — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:46:49 +0000

How about a hint about how to use the script, didn’t see anything on the xEarth web-site either.

By: EC

EC — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:07:34 +0000

Especially when you consider that they somehow find the time to work past IE innumerable flaws.

Maybe they are too busy with those fixes, that they don’t have time for Opera!