Comments on: New Speed Dial functionality in the Opera browser for bookmarks http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html A blog covering the latest buzz on the Opera browser and its competition. Sat, 13 Feb 2010 08:45:11 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: RenegadeLatino http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html/comment-page-1#comment-55078 RenegadeLatino Sun, 15 Apr 2007 23:03:45 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html#comment-55078 This speed dial is awesome. I use firefox most of the time and I open a new tab and hit a button on my bookmark toolbar and go to the site. This basically allows me to get rid of that toolbar, or have the toolbar have bookmarks to other less visited sites. Either way I have access to more bookmarks in less space. A big screen of nothing isn't very effiecient. So as long as it loads fast, I love it. This speed dial is awesome. I use firefox most of the time and I open a new tab and hit a button on my bookmark toolbar and go to the site. This basically allows me to get rid of that toolbar, or have the toolbar have bookmarks to other less visited sites.

Either way I have access to more bookmarks in less space. A big screen of nothing isn’t very effiecient. So as long as it loads fast, I love it.

]]> By: Øyvind Ø http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html/comment-page-1#comment-42075 Øyvind Ø Fri, 02 Mar 2007 22:36:37 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html#comment-42075 <i><b>Kelson:</b> ...it would use all your bookmarks, so after a while it wasn’t particularly lightweight...</i> I wouldn't mind if it did that. The thumbs would have to go though, and adding tags to the bookmarks would make the whole thing a bit more manageable. Maybe make the text blue, and call it<a href="http://del.icio.us/noteme/blog" title="My del.icio.us bookmarks" rel="nofollow"> del.icio.us </a> would be a bit too much, but at least very usable. Bookmarks have been bookmarks for too long. Flock had a vision and experimented (still does) with our definition of a bookmark. I would love to see Opera follow up (any browser really), or even dare to take their own turn and do something crazy with OM and the 300Mb that every Opera community user have waiting for them. I see so many opportunities, so many possibilities, and so little time...I really wish I could write an extension for Opera right now. - ØØ - Kelson:
…it would use all your bookmarks, so after a while it wasn’t particularly lightweight…

I wouldn’t mind if it did that. The thumbs would have to go though, and adding tags to the bookmarks would make the whole thing a bit more manageable. Maybe make the text blue, and call it del.icio.us would be a bit too much, but at least very usable.

Bookmarks have been bookmarks for too long. Flock had a vision and experimented (still does) with our definition of a bookmark. I would love to see Opera follow up (any browser really), or even dare to take their own turn and do something crazy with OM and the 300Mb that every Opera community user have waiting for them. I see so many opportunities, so many possibilities, and so little time…I really wish I could write an extension for Opera right now.

- ØØ -

]]> By: Ryan http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html/comment-page-1#comment-42027 Ryan Fri, 02 Mar 2007 18:17:53 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html#comment-42027 Another problem with the current implementation is that the thumbnails are really too small to decifer any information from a webpage. I think that it would be cool if the thumnail expanded a bit to show a page in more detail, sort of like what the keyboard buttons do on the Wii. Then I'm sure Speed Dial would be really useful. :) Another problem with the current implementation is that the thumbnails are really too small to decifer any information from a webpage. I think that it would be cool if the thumnail expanded a bit to show a page in more detail, sort of like what the keyboard buttons do on the Wii. Then I’m sure Speed Dial would be really useful. :)

]]> By: Kelson http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html/comment-page-1#comment-42020 Kelson Fri, 02 Mar 2007 17:45:13 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html#comment-42020 I'll admit to being a bit underwhelmed at first, but then I haven't gotten around to trying it out. It basically amounts to creating a local portal site from your bookmarks/history... ...which reminds me of a feature Galeon used to have back when I was using it regularly. (They did a massive rewrite for version 2, and dropped a lot of features from the first version.) You could start with a home page, a blank page, or a "portal" page generated from your bookmarks. Unfortunately, it would use <em>all</em> your bookmarks, so after a while it wasn't particularly lightweight. Keeping it to the top 9 sites sounds limiting, but it'll probably be more useful that way. And adding a visual identifier (the thumbnails) always helps. I’ll admit to being a bit underwhelmed at first, but then I haven’t gotten around to trying it out. It basically amounts to creating a local portal site from your bookmarks/history…

…which reminds me of a feature Galeon used to have back when I was using it regularly. (They did a massive rewrite for version 2, and dropped a lot of features from the first version.) You could start with a home page, a blank page, or a “portal” page generated from your bookmarks. Unfortunately, it would use all your bookmarks, so after a while it wasn’t particularly lightweight.

Keeping it to the top 9 sites sounds limiting, but it’ll probably be more useful that way. And adding a visual identifier (the thumbnails) always helps.

]]> By: Daniel Goldman http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html/comment-page-1#comment-42004 Daniel Goldman Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:25:37 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html#comment-42004 @Ryan: yes, there are multiple ways to search using Opera, though most non-tech savvy users don't know how to use the integrated search. My hope is that Opera will add a search button near the search field on the speed dial page, to make it easier for these users to use. Otherwise, you're correct, Opera is just duplicating what it already has. @Frederik: You could use Opera's "nickname" functionality. In the menu bar, go to Bookmarks > Manage Bookmarks > right-click on one of the bookmarks > Click on Properties > enter a nick in the nickname field. Next time, you simply use the the nickname instead of the actually URL. Try it out. @Ryan: yes, there are multiple ways to search using Opera, though most non-tech savvy users don’t know how to use the integrated search. My hope is that Opera will add a search button near the search field on the speed dial page, to make it easier for these users to use. Otherwise, you’re correct, Opera is just duplicating what it already has.

@Frederik: You could use Opera’s “nickname” functionality. In the menu bar, go to Bookmarks > Manage Bookmarks > right-click on one of the bookmarks > Click on Properties > enter a nick in the nickname field. Next time, you simply use the the nickname instead of the actually URL. Try it out.

]]> By: michael http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html/comment-page-1#comment-41859 michael Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:01:41 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html#comment-41859 I hope they'll bring the start bar back otherwise it will be bye opera, back to Firefox because it was because of the start bar I started using Oper ... I hope they’ll bring the start bar back otherwise it will be bye opera, back to Firefox because it was because of the start bar I started using Oper …

]]> By: Øyvind Ø http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html/comment-page-1#comment-41844 Øyvind Ø Thu, 01 Mar 2007 19:12:36 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html#comment-41844 It worked very differently to what I thought. I was going to bash it and say it was unnecessary because you can already press Ctrl+L then press write the nick name of the bookmark you want to visit then enter, and you are there. But it just feels more right to have some of them as speed dial. And most of the things that bothers me about the speed dial as it is now, is already on the "known issues" list. Sweet. Now if we could only sync this and the rest of my bookmarks with the rest of my Opera browsers around it would be hard to not permanently make the final switch. It worked very differently to what I thought. I was going to bash it and say it was unnecessary because you can already press Ctrl+L then press write the nick name of the bookmark you want to visit then enter, and you are there. But it just feels more right to have some of them as speed dial. And most of the things that bothers me about the speed dial as it is now, is already on the “known issues” list. Sweet.

Now if we could only sync this and the rest of my bookmarks with the rest of my Opera browsers around it would be hard to not permanently make the final switch.

]]> By: suribe http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html/comment-page-1#comment-41829 suribe Thu, 01 Mar 2007 16:18:45 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html#comment-41829 Start Bar => bye? SpeedDial => just awesome, as Ladislav Bodnar (distrowatch) said: "Want to know wich exciting features your preferred browser will have in a year or two? Just take a look at today's Opera to find out" Start Bar => bye?
SpeedDial => just awesome, as Ladislav Bodnar (distrowatch) said: “Want to know wich exciting features your preferred browser will have in a year or two? Just take a look at today’s Opera to find out”

]]> By: Jonathan http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html/comment-page-1#comment-41818 Jonathan Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:45:36 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html#comment-41818 I love this new feature, too. I agree with Ryan that so many ways to search is overkill. Furthermore, I like to have auto-completion for bookmarked URLs too, like Frederik. I love this new feature, too. I agree with Ryan that so many ways to search is overkill. Furthermore, I like to have auto-completion for bookmarked URLs too, like Frederik.

]]> By: ColKilkenny http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html/comment-page-1#comment-41794 ColKilkenny Thu, 01 Mar 2007 11:20:22 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html#comment-41794 Speed dial is very nice. Maybe possibility to have several "tabs" of speed dial could be even better. Opera 10.00 :o Speed dial is very nice. Maybe possibility to have several “tabs” of speed dial could be even better.

Opera 10.00 :o

]]> By: johan http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html/comment-page-1#comment-41789 johan Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:41:02 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html#comment-41789 Useless for me (turbo-nicknames is faster than seep dial) but I guess new users could use it. Regarding category 3a, well, the solution is easy enough: address completion (bookmarks and history) a la command-line completion (zsh, bash, ksh, etc); that's a feature that all users (advanced or not) could benefit from. P.S Removing the start bar is one of the dumbest moves done by Opera. Heck, disable it by default but don't remove the feature from the core. Useless for me (turbo-nicknames is faster than seep dial) but I guess new users could use it.

Regarding category 3a, well, the solution is easy enough: address completion (bookmarks and history) a la command-line completion (zsh, bash, ksh, etc); that’s a feature that all users (advanced or not) could benefit from.

P.S Removing the start bar is one of the dumbest moves done by Opera. Heck, disable it by default but don’t remove the feature from the core.

]]> By: Rijk http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html/comment-page-1#comment-41787 Rijk Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:37:08 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html#comment-41787 @Frederik: Opera added autocompletion from bookmarks in Opera 9. But it is broken for now, as Opera only uses the top-level bookmarks. This will be fixed in Kestrel. @Frederik: Opera added autocompletion from bookmarks in Opera 9. But it is broken for now, as Opera only uses the top-level bookmarks. This will be fixed in Kestrel.

]]> By: Frederik http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html/comment-page-1#comment-41781 Frederik Thu, 01 Mar 2007 09:50:44 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html#comment-41781 Opera could make things easy for category 3a: You know the url, it's in the bookmarks, but not in the top 5-6. Often, it's faster for me to just type the url than browsing my bookmarks. But I whished that Opera would offer auto-completition for bookmarked urls, not just for recently visited ones. So you could bookmark sites, and still access them quickly with the address bar. Opera could make things easy for category 3a: You know the url, it’s in the bookmarks, but not in the top 5-6.

Often, it’s faster for me to just type the url than browsing my bookmarks. But I whished that Opera would offer auto-completition for bookmarked urls, not just for recently visited ones. So you could bookmark sites, and still access them quickly with the address bar.

]]> By: Ryan http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html/comment-page-1#comment-41752 Ryan Thu, 01 Mar 2007 04:52:48 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html#comment-41752 I would have to agree that this is more geared to non-power users. I already have pretty much all of the sites I look at opened up in Opera. I do have another copy of Opera installed where I keep only one or two sites opened at a time, so this would make things easier there. About the search field, though, aren't three different ways to search the web a bit much at one time? With speed dial, you'd have the address bar, the search field up in the toolbar, and then the one in Speed Dial. Just seems like overkill to me. :P I would have to agree that this is more geared to non-power users. I already have pretty much all of the sites I look at opened up in Opera. I do have another copy of Opera installed where I keep only one or two sites opened at a time, so this would make things easier there.

About the search field, though, aren’t three different ways to search the web a bit much at one time? With speed dial, you’d have the address bar, the search field up in the toolbar, and then the one in Speed Dial. Just seems like overkill to me. :P

]]> By: BAMAToNE http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html/comment-page-1#comment-41733 BAMAToNE Thu, 01 Mar 2007 01:36:55 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2007/02/new-speed-dial-functionality-in-the-opera-browser-for-bookmarks.html#comment-41733 Being a completely new feature, it took me a few minutes to get the hang of it. But after using it a few times I think I will sign off on it. Thumbs up, Desktop Team! There seems to be a battle brewing about the decision to drop the start bar, though. http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=179565 Being a completely new feature, it took me a few minutes to get the hang of it. But after using it a few times I think I will sign off on it. Thumbs up, Desktop Team!

There seems to be a battle brewing about the decision to drop the start bar, though.

http://my.opera.com/community/forums/topic.dml?id=179565

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