Comments on: Opera 9.1 to include Real-Time Fraud Protection http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html A blog covering the latest buzz on the Opera browser and its competition. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 05:00:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Yahia http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-14288 Yahia Wed, 25 Oct 2006 17:14:02 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-14288 <blockquote cite="Bo"> I don’t like the idea, that Opera checks the visited sites in real-time. I trust Opera (I’m using Opera Mini ) and they way they deal with privacy concerns is the best they could have with this approach. But I’ll disable this feature. I don’t need fraud protection anyway. A frequently updated blacklist wouldn’t be much less up-to-date but better regarding performance and privacy. </blockquote> Well, I think that's your personal choice -- as long as most people need this feature, or can be useful to them. And about the method, I think Opera has done right to check from their servers. Why? Because I think a downloaded black-list can be simply hacked by a new fraudulent script or something..

I don’t like the idea, that Opera checks the visited sites in real-time. I trust Opera (I’m using Opera Mini ) and they way they deal with privacy concerns is the best they could have with this approach.
But I’ll disable this feature. I don’t need fraud protection anyway. A frequently updated blacklist wouldn’t be much less up-to-date but better regarding performance and privacy.

Well, I think that’s your personal choice — as long as most people need this feature, or can be useful to them.
And about the method, I think Opera has done right to check from their servers. Why? Because I think a downloaded black-list can be simply hacked by a new fraudulent script or something..

]]> By: Heathen Dan http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-14071 Heathen Dan Tue, 24 Oct 2006 08:04:37 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-14071 Good idea, but I hope it's disabled by default. I noticed that IE7's anti-phishing feature slows down the loading of webpages. Good idea, but I hope it’s disabled by default. I noticed that IE7’s anti-phishing feature slows down the loading of webpages.

]]> By: Sohil http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13639 Sohil Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:38:07 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13639 Daniel, Firefox also is capable of doing this real-time (Choose Ask Google Option). However it's defaulted to the Pre-Downloaded List Also do you if it's Heuristic Based (like IE7). Nice move on Opera's part calling it "Fraud Protection" Also to the guy who's complaining, Why does Opera have to be different, Firefox calls it "Web-Site Forgery" not Phishing. Daniel, Firefox also is capable of doing this real-time (Choose Ask Google Option). However it’s defaulted to the Pre-Downloaded List
Also do you if it’s Heuristic Based (like IE7).

Nice move on Opera’s part calling it “Fraud Protection”

Also to the guy who’s complaining, Why does Opera have to be different, Firefox calls it “Web-Site Forgery” not Phishing.

]]> By: Devz0r http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13539 Devz0r Thu, 19 Oct 2006 19:44:28 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13539 An idea for how to better present it: Have the beta style of managing widgets (shade of black over the web page) cover the site and have popup that says "Suspected Site Fraud... etc. etc. etc." and have options of dealing with it. An idea for how to better present it:

Have the beta style of managing widgets (shade of black over the web page) cover the site and have popup that says “Suspected Site Fraud… etc. etc. etc.” and have options of dealing with it.

]]> By: Keith http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13534 Keith Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:08:26 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13534 I don't really use Opera. My commonly used browsers are <a href="http://www.neohide.com" rel="nofollow">Firefox and Internet Explorer</a>. However, these days I do see Opera getting better, and perhaps in no time, I may find myself switching to use use Opera. I don’t really use Opera. My commonly used browsers are Firefox and Internet Explorer. However, these days I do see Opera getting better, and perhaps in no time, I may find myself switching to use use Opera.

]]> By: eric http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13525 eric Thu, 19 Oct 2006 12:41:42 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13525 i been inloved with opera since its early days, keep up the good work guys. i been inloved with opera since its early days, keep up the good work guys.

]]> By: Arve http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13519 Arve Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:38:17 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13519 Caligula: When It's Ready. :-) In the meantime, you really ought to upgrade to Opera 9.02, since it provides many fixes and new features. Caligula: When It’s Ready. :-)

In the meantime, you really ought to upgrade to Opera 9.02, since it provides many fixes and new features.

]]> By: cranil7 http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13507 cranil7 Thu, 19 Oct 2006 05:48:11 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13507 Just give a user an option to use this feature or not. I don't want to use that option all the time, so there should be a setting that allows me to select/de-selet such checking. Just give a user an option to use this feature or not. I don’t want to use that option all the time, so there should be a setting that allows me to select/de-selet such checking.

]]> By: Caligula http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13502 Caligula Thu, 19 Oct 2006 04:58:14 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13502 When can you download 9.1 version.? When can you download 9.1 version.?

]]> By: Kyhwana http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13485 Kyhwana Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:49:37 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13485 Actually, firefox 2 will let you choose to use a pre-downloaded list or use a provider (in this case google) to check in real time if the site you're going to is a phising/malware site. (Tools/options/Security) But as you say, by default it uses the downloaded list. Could you clarify the first sentance about Firefox at all? It's kind of inaccurate. Actually, firefox 2 will let you choose to use a pre-downloaded list or use a provider (in this case google) to check in real time if the site you’re going to is a phising/malware site.
(Tools/options/Security)

But as you say, by default it uses the downloaded list. Could you clarify the first sentance about Firefox at all? It’s kind of inaccurate.

]]> By: XPecto http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13481 XPecto Thu, 19 Oct 2006 00:31:04 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13481 Being the actually the best browser opera seems to be criticised by the community just cause it wasn't the free browser at first Being the actually the best browser opera seems to be criticised by the community
just cause it wasn’t the free browser at first

]]> By: PhoenixP3K http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13474 PhoenixP3K Wed, 18 Oct 2006 22:32:46 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13474 Great news for Opera browser, this way we'll remain on top feature wise! But seriously I never found a site that would trigger such protection and on IE7 for example I have it disabled there. The only way you can fall on one of those is if you mis-type an URL or click a link in an email. Great news for Opera browser, this way we’ll remain on top feature wise! But seriously I never found a site that would trigger such protection and on IE7 for example I have it disabled there.

The only way you can fall on one of those is if you mis-type an URL or click a link in an email.

]]> By: Pallab http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13435 Pallab Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:55:51 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13435 non-troppo wrote in the desktop team blog about something called "adaptive zoom". Do you have any details on that ? non-troppo wrote in the desktop team blog about something called “adaptive zoom”. Do you have any details on that ?

]]> By: Daniel Goldman http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13434 Daniel Goldman Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:46:55 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13434 EC, I suppose most non-techie users would have no clue about the meaning of 'phishing'. EC, I suppose most non-techie users would have no clue about the meaning of ‘phishing’.

]]> By: EC http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13433 EC Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:33:44 +0000 http://operawatch.com/news/2006/10/opera-91-to-include-real-time-fraud-protection.html#comment-13433 I don't get why Opera has to be different - can't they just call it a <b><i>phishing</i></b> filter, or at least display that word on the page? What's with the wording (<i>fraudulent</i> and <i>the fraud filter</i>)? I don’t get why Opera has to be different - can’t they just call it a phishing filter, or at least display that word on the page?

What’s with the wording (fraudulent and the fraud filter)?

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