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	<title>Comments on: Some questioning whether Opera 9 passes the Acid2 Test</title>
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		<title>By: FataL</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/some-questioning-whether-opera-9-passes-the-acid2-test.html/comment-page-1#comment-5896</link>
		<dc:creator>FataL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 15:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scrolling behaviour in Opera the same as in Safari, Konqueror and iCab (shows scrollbars) that also passed the Acid 2 test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scrolling behaviour in Opera the same as in Safari, Konqueror and iCab (shows scrollbars) that also passed the Acid 2 test.</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/some-questioning-whether-opera-9-passes-the-acid2-test.html/comment-page-1#comment-5805</link>
		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 06:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opera passes the test on my home computer. But on my work computer the acid 2 test failes.

This is how it looks like:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://1tones.com/opera_acid2.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://1tones.com/opera_acid2.jpg&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opera passes the test on my home computer. But on my work computer the acid 2 test failes.</p>
<p>This is how it looks like:<br />
<a href="http://1tones.com/opera_acid2.jpg">http://1tones.com/opera_acid2.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kelson</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/some-questioning-whether-opera-9-passes-the-acid2-test.html/comment-page-1#comment-5793</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 22:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sohil: are you talking about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spreadfirefox.com/node/24205&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post?&lt;/a&gt;  &#039;Cause if you are, the only person I see encouraging the claims is natmaster himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sohil: are you talking about <a href="http://www.spreadfirefox.com/node/24205">this post?</a>  &#8216;Cause if you are, the only person I see encouraging the claims is natmaster himself.</p>
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		<title>By: Naelphin</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/some-questioning-whether-opera-9-passes-the-acid2-test.html/comment-page-1#comment-5789</link>
		<dc:creator>Naelphin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 20:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what my one appears like: 
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1524/acid2ba7.png

No User JS, or user stylesheets. No Fit to Width.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what my one appears like:<br />
<a href="http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1524/acid2ba7.png">http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1524/acid2ba7.png</a></p>
<p>No User JS, or user stylesheets. No Fit to Width.</p>
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		<title>By: Naelphin</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/some-questioning-whether-opera-9-passes-the-acid2-test.html/comment-page-1#comment-5788</link>
		<dc:creator>Naelphin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 20:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what my one appears like: &lt;a href=&quot;http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1524/acid2ba7.png&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;acid2&lt;/a&gt;

No User JS, or user stylesheets. No Fit to Width.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what my one appears like: <a href="http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1524/acid2ba7.png">acid2</a></p>
<p>No User JS, or user stylesheets. No Fit to Width.</p>
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		<title>By: naelphin</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/some-questioning-whether-opera-9-passes-the-acid2-test.html/comment-page-1#comment-5786</link>
		<dc:creator>naelphin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 19:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mine looks odd too. This is what it looks for me:
 &lt;a href=&quot;http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1524/acid2ba7.png&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Acid2&lt;/a&gt;

I think it is because of my minimum font setting, it is set at 16px. No Fit To Page enabled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mine looks odd too. This is what it looks for me:<br />
 <a href="http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/1524/acid2ba7.png">Acid2</a></p>
<p>I think it is because of my minimum font setting, it is set at 16px. No Fit To Page enabled.</p>
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		<title>By: Nafcom</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/some-questioning-whether-opera-9-passes-the-acid2-test.html/comment-page-1#comment-5765</link>
		<dc:creator>Nafcom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 13:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it passes the ACID2 test for me here :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it passes the ACID2 test for me here <img src='http://operawatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Saito</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/some-questioning-whether-opera-9-passes-the-acid2-test.html/comment-page-1#comment-5759</link>
		<dc:creator>Saito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2006 09:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If some blame Opera, then also Konqueror. It can scroll the test page, then the smile face is distorted likewise. Additionally, if you set larger font from menu or Ctrl+mousewheel, the distortions are much worse than Opera&#039;s renderings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If some blame Opera, then also Konqueror. It can scroll the test page, then the smile face is distorted likewise. Additionally, if you set larger font from menu or Ctrl+mousewheel, the distortions are much worse than Opera&#8217;s renderings.</p>
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		<title>By: Sohil</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/some-questioning-whether-opera-9-passes-the-acid2-test.html/comment-page-1#comment-5749</link>
		<dc:creator>Sohil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 23:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Allright you know what, lets repeat the same article once Firefox 3 arrives (Firefox 3/Gecko 1.9 passes Acid 2)

For fellow Firefox fans out there, stop spreading FUD.

For fellow Opera fans out there, an eye for an eye, an insult for an insult.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allright you know what, lets repeat the same article once Firefox 3 arrives (Firefox 3/Gecko 1.9 passes Acid 2)</p>
<p>For fellow Firefox fans out there, stop spreading FUD.</p>
<p>For fellow Opera fans out there, an eye for an eye, an insult for an insult.</p>
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		<title>By: Sohil</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/some-questioning-whether-opera-9-passes-the-acid2-test.html/comment-page-1#comment-5748</link>
		<dc:creator>Sohil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 23:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, but this is a Mozilla vs Opera issue. I mean for god&#039;s sake that idiotic article was posted on SpreadFirefox. Not a single soul except myself made the comment that Zooming and Scrolling aren&#039;t part of Acid2.
Heck some people even encouraged the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but this is a Mozilla vs Opera issue. I mean for god&#8217;s sake that idiotic article was posted on SpreadFirefox. Not a single soul except myself made the comment that Zooming and Scrolling aren&#8217;t part of Acid2.<br />
Heck some people even encouraged the article.</p>
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		<title>By: Antonio</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/some-questioning-whether-opera-9-passes-the-acid2-test.html/comment-page-1#comment-5742</link>
		<dc:creator>Antonio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 16:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t pass for me, FC4, no scrolling or resizing or fit to width</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t pass for me, FC4, no scrolling or resizing or fit to width</p>
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		<title>By: no-go</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/some-questioning-whether-opera-9-passes-the-acid2-test.html/comment-page-1#comment-5738</link>
		<dc:creator>no-go</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 13:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What on earth is this natmaster/Nathaniel guy talking about? 

How come this guy dares to write an article about Acid2  if he doesn&#039;t know what &lt;code&gt;position:fixed&lt;/code&gt; means?.

Why WaSP posts such a misleading and vague blog entry?. Why haven&#039;t they clarified that this is just nonsense and there&#039;s no doubt Opera passes the test?.

&quot;Molly Holzschlag: Acid2 Task Force Member&quot;

Whatever...&quot;FUD spreader&quot; suits better in this case :-\</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What on earth is this natmaster/Nathaniel guy talking about? </p>
<p>How come this guy dares to write an article about Acid2  if he doesn&#8217;t know what <code>position:fixed</code> means?.</p>
<p>Why WaSP posts such a misleading and vague blog entry?. Why haven&#8217;t they clarified that this is just nonsense and there&#8217;s no doubt Opera passes the test?.</p>
<p>&#8220;Molly Holzschlag: Acid2 Task Force Member&#8221;</p>
<p>Whatever&#8230;&#8221;FUD spreader&#8221; suits better in this case :-\</p>
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		<title>By: Olli</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/some-questioning-whether-opera-9-passes-the-acid2-test.html/comment-page-1#comment-5736</link>
		<dc:creator>Olli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 11:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>karaj: You have enabled fit to width :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>karaj: You have enabled fit to width <img src='http://operawatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: karaj</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/some-questioning-whether-opera-9-passes-the-acid2-test.html/comment-page-1#comment-5735</link>
		<dc:creator>karaj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 11:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Opera does not pass Acid2 with build 8533, but this could be because I installed it over the betas. This is how the page looks like (without scrolling, zooming or anything):
http://w3.enternet.hu/puki33/opera_acid2_bug.png
Anyway, a new Opera setup pass the acid test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Opera does not pass Acid2 with build 8533, but this could be because I installed it over the betas. This is how the page looks like (without scrolling, zooming or anything):<br />
<a href="http://w3.enternet.hu/puki33/opera_acid2_bug.png">http://w3.enternet.hu/puki33/opera_acid2_bug.png</a><br />
Anyway, a new Opera setup pass the acid test.</p>
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		<title>By: Ilya Birman</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/some-questioning-whether-opera-9-passes-the-acid2-test.html/comment-page-1#comment-5734</link>
		<dc:creator>Ilya Birman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jul 2006 09:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ebola_Influenza, Acid2 test is written so, that some part of image are &lt;i&gt;intended&lt;/i&gt; to move when scrolled and some are &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt;. They are testing support for &lt;code&gt;position: fixed&lt;/code&gt; by this (which IE has no, afaik).

So the fact, that the image gets distorted upon scrolling, is not just &quot;not-a-big-deal&quot;, but it&#039;s the &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt; correct way to handle Acid2. If the whole face would have moved without visual &quot;artifacts&quot;, that would &lt;i&gt;indeed&lt;/i&gt; mean that Opera doesn&#039;t respect &lt;code&gt;position: fixed&lt;/code&gt; and so does not pass Acid2.

But since Opera does distort the rendering in &lt;i&gt;exactly the way specified&lt;/i&gt; in the CSS, it passes Acid2 fully.

Hope this helps :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ebola_Influenza, Acid2 test is written so, that some part of image are <i>intended</i> to move when scrolled and some are <i>not</i>. They are testing support for <code>position: fixed</code> by this (which IE has no, afaik).</p>
<p>So the fact, that the image gets distorted upon scrolling, is not just &#8220;not-a-big-deal&#8221;, but it&#8217;s the <i>only</i> correct way to handle Acid2. If the whole face would have moved without visual &#8220;artifacts&#8221;, that would <i>indeed</i> mean that Opera doesn&#8217;t respect <code>position: fixed</code> and so does not pass Acid2.</p>
<p>But since Opera does distort the rendering in <i>exactly the way specified</i> in the CSS, it passes Acid2 fully.</p>
<p>Hope this helps <img src='http://operawatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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