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		<title>By: MrL</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/opera-introduces-widget-generator.html/comment-page-1#comment-6339</link>
		<dc:creator>MrL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>el_esponjoso:

As I said many times before, what I want from
Opera team is to stop producing useless eyecandy
&quot;things&quot;, stop loosing functionality and speed
from version to version, stop introducing half-done
tools. Focus on refining tools that are already
in Opera, focus on fixing bugs (which make Opera 9
unusable for most users I know).

They don&#039;t want to provide html-email, because it&#039;s
useless nonstandard eyecandy, right? But they
happily introduce useless nonstandard eyecandy
&quot;widgets&quot;. 
And what stops them from fixing thousands of bugs,
of which some are &lt;b&gt;years&lt;/b&gt; old? Is it working
on genius concepts like &quot;widgets&quot;? Or do they spend
all of their time on marketing and praising their
own work?

Yes, this is my own subjective point of view. I don&#039;t
care how much others love &quot;widgets&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>el_esponjoso:</p>
<p>As I said many times before, what I want from<br />
Opera team is to stop producing useless eyecandy<br />
&#8220;things&#8221;, stop loosing functionality and speed<br />
from version to version, stop introducing half-done<br />
tools. Focus on refining tools that are already<br />
in Opera, focus on fixing bugs (which make Opera 9<br />
unusable for most users I know).</p>
<p>They don&#8217;t want to provide html-email, because it&#8217;s<br />
useless nonstandard eyecandy, right? But they<br />
happily introduce useless nonstandard eyecandy<br />
&#8220;widgets&#8221;.<br />
And what stops them from fixing thousands of bugs,<br />
of which some are <b>years</b> old? Is it working<br />
on genius concepts like &#8220;widgets&#8221;? Or do they spend<br />
all of their time on marketing and praising their<br />
own work?</p>
<p>Yes, this is my own subjective point of view. I don&#8217;t<br />
care how much others love &#8220;widgets&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: strawberry</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/opera-introduces-widget-generator.html/comment-page-1#comment-6174</link>
		<dc:creator>strawberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 05:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want to be negative and discourage the introduction of new technology but ... the implementation of widgets just doesnt work for me right now. Widgets get their own window, and thus get far too much presence within my screen estate. To me they resemble some ancient technology: the channel push functionality that was once introduced with windows 98 and was soon forgotten.
They don&#039;t deliver high value right now although i&#039;m not sure if thats caused by lack of uninspiration or by some other limitations.

Also: the user interaction with widgets should be more standardized: new technology should be made available in a way that is familiar as much as possible: using a seperate window by default just feels &#039;dirty&#039;: i choose opera because of it&#039;s tabbed browsing.

Also
- add standard configuration methods for widgets (including screen coordinates, or let them snap to the widgets panel.)
- provide &#039;living space&#039; within opera, not within windows, put them in a dedicated screen estate location: next to widgets panel.
- or.. create a widget tab that tiles all widgets into &#039;one&#039; webpage, similar to the www.google.com/ig site. I find most widgets similar to the google page content blocks anyway.
- come to think of it: provide a way to embed widget-code to my google.com/ig page directly.

I doubt that widgets in their current form will become accepted by early adopters since they simply don&#039;t provide enough added value and take up too much handling time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to be negative and discourage the introduction of new technology but &#8230; the implementation of widgets just doesnt work for me right now. Widgets get their own window, and thus get far too much presence within my screen estate. To me they resemble some ancient technology: the channel push functionality that was once introduced with windows 98 and was soon forgotten.<br />
They don&#8217;t deliver high value right now although i&#8217;m not sure if thats caused by lack of uninspiration or by some other limitations.</p>
<p>Also: the user interaction with widgets should be more standardized: new technology should be made available in a way that is familiar as much as possible: using a seperate window by default just feels &#8216;dirty&#8217;: i choose opera because of it&#8217;s tabbed browsing.</p>
<p>Also<br />
- add standard configuration methods for widgets (including screen coordinates, or let them snap to the widgets panel.)<br />
- provide &#8216;living space&#8217; within opera, not within windows, put them in a dedicated screen estate location: next to widgets panel.<br />
- or.. create a widget tab that tiles all widgets into &#8216;one&#8217; webpage, similar to the <a href="http://www.google.com/ig">http://www.google.com/ig</a> site. I find most widgets similar to the google page content blocks anyway.<br />
- come to think of it: provide a way to embed widget-code to my google.com/ig page directly.</p>
<p>I doubt that widgets in their current form will become accepted by early adopters since they simply don&#8217;t provide enough added value and take up too much handling time.</p>
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		<title>By: el_esponjoso</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/opera-introduces-widget-generator.html/comment-page-1#comment-6058</link>
		<dc:creator>el_esponjoso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MrL, if you don´t like widgets it doesn´t mean for other people the widgets are useless
Shame on you, MrL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MrL, if you don´t like widgets it doesn´t mean for other people the widgets are useless<br />
Shame on you, MrL</p>
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		<title>By: MrL</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/opera-introduces-widget-generator.html/comment-page-1#comment-5993</link>
		<dc:creator>MrL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 21:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh great. Now you can create those useless widgets easier!

There are 448 of them? I browsed through all of them
and found a total of 0 interesting.

Stupid widgets. Useless technology. Waste of time.
Shame on you Opera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh great. Now you can create those useless widgets easier!</p>
<p>There are 448 of them? I browsed through all of them<br />
and found a total of 0 interesting.</p>
<p>Stupid widgets. Useless technology. Waste of time.<br />
Shame on you Opera.</p>
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		<title>By: Pallab</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/opera-introduces-widget-generator.html/comment-page-1#comment-5986</link>
		<dc:creator>Pallab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arve thanks for the tip about Autodiscovery feature :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arve thanks for the tip about Autodiscovery feature <img src='http://operawatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Sohil</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/opera-introduces-widget-generator.html/comment-page-1#comment-5985</link>
		<dc:creator>Sohil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Arve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Arve.</p>
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		<title>By: Pallab</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/opera-introduces-widget-generator.html/comment-page-1#comment-5984</link>
		<dc:creator>Pallab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had emailed SU about a month back requesting them to provide support Opera taking advantage of its widgets. I didnt get any reply from them. So I believe that they arent interested.
In my blog I had suggested using Spurl as an alternative of SU. I have get quite a few hit in my blog from Google for search terms like &quot;StumpleUpon for Opera&quot;, which suggests that a lot of Opera users want to see SU for OPera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had emailed SU about a month back requesting them to provide support Opera taking advantage of its widgets. I didnt get any reply from them. So I believe that they arent interested.<br />
In my blog I had suggested using Spurl as an alternative of SU. I have get quite a few hit in my blog from Google for search terms like &#8220;StumpleUpon for Opera&#8221;, which suggests that a lot of Opera users want to see SU for OPera.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/opera-introduces-widget-generator.html/comment-page-1#comment-5983</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, you ask if a stumbleupon widget is possible, yes but it would have very limited interactivity with the page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, you ask if a stumbleupon widget is possible, yes but it would have very limited interactivity with the page.</p>
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		<title>By: Wajo357</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/opera-introduces-widget-generator.html/comment-page-1#comment-5982</link>
		<dc:creator>Wajo357</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 17:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it seems like Opera is using the auto-discovery feature for their desktopteam website: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it seems like Opera is using the auto-discovery feature for their desktopteam website: <a href="http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/">http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Goldman</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/opera-introduces-widget-generator.html/comment-page-1#comment-5981</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Goldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arve, good point. I read your post the other day about this auto-discovery feature. I wonder why Opera didn&#039;t make this public until now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arve, good point. I read your post the other day about this auto-discovery feature. I wonder why Opera didn&#8217;t make this public until now.</p>
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		<title>By: ノヴム・オペラヌム</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/opera-introduces-widget-generator.html/comment-page-1#comment-5980</link>
		<dc:creator>ノヴム・オペラヌム</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Widgetize - Opera Widget Generator...&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;imgright&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;/Watanabe/homes/blog/hotentry-s.png&quot; alt=&quot;ホッテントリ Widget&quot;&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://my.opera.com/Watanabe/blog/show...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Widgetize &#8211; Opera Widget Generator&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;imgright&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;/Watanabe/homes/blog/hotentry-s.png&quot; alt=&quot;ホッテントリ Widget&quot;&gt;&lt;/img&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://my.opera.com/Watanabe/blog/show&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Arve</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/opera-introduces-widget-generator.html/comment-page-1#comment-5979</link>
		<dc:creator>Arve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sohil: http://widgets.opera.com/widget/4297</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sohil: <a href="http://widgets.opera.com/widget/4297">http://widgets.opera.com/widget/4297</a></p>
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		<title>By: Arve</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/opera-introduces-widget-generator.html/comment-page-1#comment-5978</link>
		<dc:creator>Arve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, you can make the OperaWatch widget &lt;a href=&quot;http://virtuelvis.com/archives/2006/07/widget-autodiscovery&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;discoverable&lt;/a&gt; by using widget autodiscovery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, you can make the OperaWatch widget <a href="http://virtuelvis.com/archives/2006/07/widget-autodiscovery">discoverable</a> by using widget autodiscovery.</p>
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		<title>By: sc</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/opera-introduces-widget-generator.html/comment-page-1#comment-5977</link>
		<dc:creator>sc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that page is pretty cool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that page is pretty cool!</p>
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		<title>By: Sohil</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/07/opera-introduces-widget-generator.html/comment-page-1#comment-5976</link>
		<dc:creator>Sohil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s great news. It would have better adoption (the Widget creating tool) by Bloggers if  Opera had a bit more market share. But it doesn&#039;t hurt to try, does it ;)

Anyway know if there&#039;s a good Cricket(Sport) Widget</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s great news. It would have better adoption (the Widget creating tool) by Bloggers if  Opera had a bit more market share. But it doesn&#8217;t hurt to try, does it <img src='http://operawatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway know if there&#8217;s a good Cricket(Sport) Widget</p>
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