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		<title>By: nathan</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/06/opera-9-released.html#comment-34758</link>
		<dc:creator>nathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 09:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i cant read chinese language at opera version 9.10 Anyone can help me??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i cant read chinese language at opera version 9.10 Anyone can help me??</p>
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		<title>By: Computer Guy</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/06/opera-9-released.html#comment-20922</link>
		<dc:creator>Computer Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 19:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel Goldman, I found and fixed the problem. 

The pop-up setting was set on (Open Pop-up In 

Background). 

So I changed it to (Open All Pop-Up)

It works better now on this setting.  

I got it to work. 

Now I can now see www.yahoo.com and other web 

sites.

I also use Norton on My computer too.  

Norton can sometimes can have it's ups and downs.

Thank You for your help...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel Goldman, I found and fixed the problem. </p>
<p>The pop-up setting was set on (Open Pop-up In </p>
<p>Background). </p>
<p>So I changed it to (Open All Pop-Up)</p>
<p>It works better now on this setting.  </p>
<p>I got it to work. </p>
<p>Now I can now see <a href="http://www.yahoo.com">http://www.yahoo.com</a> and other web </p>
<p>sites.</p>
<p>I also use Norton on My computer too.  </p>
<p>Norton can sometimes can have it&#8217;s ups and downs.</p>
<p>Thank You for your help&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Computer Guy</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/06/opera-9-released.html#comment-20908</link>
		<dc:creator>Computer Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 17:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel Goldman, do you think you could please put 

it in text on this Commant Post? 

I don't check My E-Mail that offten, and I do not 

send many messagess over the internet. 

So is that OK with you? 

I have very little time to check My E-Mail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel Goldman, do you think you could please put </p>
<p>it in text on this Commant Post? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t check My E-Mail that offten, and I do not </p>
<p>send many messagess over the internet. </p>
<p>So is that OK with you? </p>
<p>I have very little time to check My E-Mail.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Goldman</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/06/opera-9-released.html#comment-20870</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Goldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 13:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Computer guy, why don't you send me an email, I'll help you out. (daniel@operawatch.com).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Computer guy, why don&#8217;t you send me an email, I&#8217;ll help you out. (daniel@operawatch.com).</p>
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		<title>By: Computer Guy</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/06/opera-9-released.html#comment-20858</link>
		<dc:creator>Computer Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 10:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(Opera The Web Browser)

First, I looked www.wikipedia.com to look for the 

best web browser vs Internet Exploer and 

Firefox and also Internet Exploer7.0.  Even 

though I have Firefox. 

 I do like it's tabbed feature, 

There were many to choose from. I 

looked throw the list and then I saw Opera, So I 

thought I would give it a try.  So I want to 

www.opera.com, and I downloaded it to my computer

I started Opera it gave Me a blank page(Normal).

First I tried to go to a few well known web sites

like www.dslreports.com, www.yahoo.com and many 

more, it failed in every try.  

So here I am typing this letter so someone can 

help Me with this problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(Opera The Web Browser)</p>
<p>First, I looked <a href="http://www.wikipedia.com">http://www.wikipedia.com</a> to look for the </p>
<p>best web browser vs Internet Exploer and </p>
<p>Firefox and also Internet Exploer7.0.  Even </p>
<p>though I have Firefox. </p>
<p> I do like it&#8217;s tabbed feature, </p>
<p>There were many to choose from. I </p>
<p>looked throw the list and then I saw Opera, So I </p>
<p>thought I would give it a try.  So I want to </p>
<p><a href="http://www.opera.com">http://www.opera.com</a>, and I downloaded it to my computer</p>
<p>I started Opera it gave Me a blank page(Normal).</p>
<p>First I tried to go to a few well known web sites</p>
<p>like <a href="http://www.dslreports.com">http://www.dslreports.com</a>, <a href="http://www.yahoo.com">http://www.yahoo.com</a> and many </p>
<p>more, it failed in every try.  </p>
<p>So here I am typing this letter so someone can </p>
<p>help Me with this problem.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnB</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/06/opera-9-released.html#comment-4503</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2006 01:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, ReWiz, for offering up the other side of the coin.

But, at the end of the day, the key word is standards.

They use F1 for Help.  They put Help at the rightend of the menu bar.  They understand and implement correctly a whole raft of UI standards.  In fact, Opera breaks many sites because Opera is rigourously insistent on implementing standards exactly the way they are supposed to be implemented. 

In the previous release, Opera used a non-standard file save dialog box when saving an attachment.  They brought that into line.  

Look at how Opera has worked to implement the Acid2 test so that, yet again, a standard is met.

But the Opera menuing behaviour -- no matter how either one of us works -- remains inconsistent with every other mainstream (including Notes!!) piece of software.
 
In this particular area, the creators of software which sets the bar for adherence to standards have failed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, ReWiz, for offering up the other side of the coin.</p>
<p>But, at the end of the day, the key word is standards.</p>
<p>They use F1 for Help.  They put Help at the rightend of the menu bar.  They understand and implement correctly a whole raft of UI standards.  In fact, Opera breaks many sites because Opera is rigourously insistent on implementing standards exactly the way they are supposed to be implemented. </p>
<p>In the previous release, Opera used a non-standard file save dialog box when saving an attachment.  They brought that into line.  </p>
<p>Look at how Opera has worked to implement the Acid2 test so that, yet again, a standard is met.</p>
<p>But the Opera menuing behaviour &#8212; no matter how either one of us works &#8212; remains inconsistent with every other mainstream (including Notes!!) piece of software.</p>
<p>In this particular area, the creators of software which sets the bar for adherence to standards have failed.</p>
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		<title>By: bewda</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/06/opera-9-released.html#comment-4496</link>
		<dc:creator>bewda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2006 14:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey friends opera mobile browser 8.6 has many bugs. I hope a new version of opera mobile will be launching soon. Sorry i dont have a pc so i am more concern about mobile browsers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey friends opera mobile browser 8.6 has many bugs. I hope a new version of opera mobile will be launching soon. Sorry i dont have a pc so i am more concern about mobile browsers</p>
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		<title>By: Dan DeVaney</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/06/opera-9-released.html#comment-4478</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan DeVaney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flash wont work with Opera on my intel mac unless it is set to open under Rosetta.

Pretty slow performance under Rosetta :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flash wont work with Opera on my intel mac unless it is set to open under Rosetta.</p>
<p>Pretty slow performance under Rosetta <img src='http://operawatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: ReWiz</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/06/opera-9-released.html#comment-4473</link>
		<dc:creator>ReWiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 21:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JohnB:
I'm not a dev and I use fullscreen. I want to concentrate on what I'm doing and not be distracted by some visual background noise. And I like to have instant access to the things I'm looking for on a page and don't have to scroll down and right to see what's on the page.
I don't like IE's small popup windows. There should be a popup-blocker for IE  (just a joke!).

And otherwise, if I'd not be in maximised window I would like Operas behaviour with bookmark menu. It is space efficient - using the space that is possible to use. It is way faster that I don't have to use Firefox's slow scrolling through the bookmark list to find what I need. But (of course) I normally don't use the bookmark menu, but bookmarks and bookmark-folders on personal toolbar for the often used bookmarks (just check "show on personal toolbar" in properties) or the bookmark panel.
I suppose you don't like addressbar popup list either which is exceeding Opera Window to the sides. And you are not alone (someone complained on IRC).
But I like it.

And I like that Opera is different. That is the way Opera gives me the best and fastest internet experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JohnB:<br />
I&#8217;m not a dev and I use fullscreen. I want to concentrate on what I&#8217;m doing and not be distracted by some visual background noise. And I like to have instant access to the things I&#8217;m looking for on a page and don&#8217;t have to scroll down and right to see what&#8217;s on the page.<br />
I don&#8217;t like IE&#8217;s small popup windows. There should be a popup-blocker for IE  (just a joke!).</p>
<p>And otherwise, if I&#8217;d not be in maximised window I would like Operas behaviour with bookmark menu. It is space efficient - using the space that is possible to use. It is way faster that I don&#8217;t have to use Firefox&#8217;s slow scrolling through the bookmark list to find what I need. But (of course) I normally don&#8217;t use the bookmark menu, but bookmarks and bookmark-folders on personal toolbar for the often used bookmarks (just check &#8220;show on personal toolbar&#8221; in properties) or the bookmark panel.<br />
I suppose you don&#8217;t like addressbar popup list either which is exceeding Opera Window to the sides. And you are not alone (someone complained on IRC).<br />
But I like it.</p>
<p>And I like that Opera is different. That is the way Opera gives me the best and fastest internet experience.</p>
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		<title>By: ReWiz</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/06/opera-9-released.html#comment-4471</link>
		<dc:creator>ReWiz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kL: custom source viewer should work with quotes (for "path/file name")</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kL: custom source viewer should work with quotes (for &#8220;path/file name&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/06/opera-9-released.html#comment-4470</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 20:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I've got it the "Create search" item back now. I deleted and reinstalled the Web Developer Toolbar, and the context item came back.

Just in case someone else has the smae problem....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I&#8217;ve got it the &#8220;Create search&#8221; item back now. I deleted and reinstalled the Web Developer Toolbar, and the context item came back.</p>
<p>Just in case someone else has the smae problem&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnB</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/06/opera-9-released.html#comment-4469</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 19:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!

I don't know anyone who works "full screen" these days.  Except, perhaps, Opera developers.

Simple experiment:  Open Opera and make it full screen.  Now click on the button that resizes it so that it is not full screen.  Then manually (by dragging the corner) resize it so that the height is approximately 1/4 of the screen size -- yeah, yeah, I know that this is artificial but I'm trying to demonstrate a point so work with me!).

Good.  Now place the Opera window so that the bottom of the window is along the bottom of the screen.  Almost there.

Click on the Bookmarks menu item.  See how the list is displayed?  Of course if you've the kind of bookmark list that I have, you can see this even when the Opera window is 3/4 the size of the full screen.  

If you want to see how it should behave, try Firefox.  And don't waste your time telling me to work in a different way ... all the other browsers that I use work the way I want.  Why can't -- or, more accurately:  why won't -- Opera "get with the program."

Your mission:  find any other mainstream piece of software that does this wrong-headed menu display.

Opera9 has some nice features (especially the site preferences).  With an hour of work they could put in a proper menu bar handler.  I'll keep on using Opera but this refusal of Opera to make its software behave the way mainstream software behaves is so unnecessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!!!!!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know anyone who works &#8220;full screen&#8221; these days.  Except, perhaps, Opera developers.</p>
<p>Simple experiment:  Open Opera and make it full screen.  Now click on the button that resizes it so that it is not full screen.  Then manually (by dragging the corner) resize it so that the height is approximately 1/4 of the screen size &#8212; yeah, yeah, I know that this is artificial but I&#8217;m trying to demonstrate a point so work with me!).</p>
<p>Good.  Now place the Opera window so that the bottom of the window is along the bottom of the screen.  Almost there.</p>
<p>Click on the Bookmarks menu item.  See how the list is displayed?  Of course if you&#8217;ve the kind of bookmark list that I have, you can see this even when the Opera window is 3/4 the size of the full screen.  </p>
<p>If you want to see how it should behave, try Firefox.  And don&#8217;t waste your time telling me to work in a different way &#8230; all the other browsers that I use work the way I want.  Why can&#8217;t &#8212; or, more accurately:  why won&#8217;t &#8212; Opera &#8220;get with the program.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your mission:  find any other mainstream piece of software that does this wrong-headed menu display.</p>
<p>Opera9 has some nice features (especially the site preferences).  With an hour of work they could put in a proper menu bar handler.  I&#8217;ll keep on using Opera but this refusal of Opera to make its software behave the way mainstream software behaves is so unnecessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelson</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/06/opera-9-released.html#comment-4466</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 19:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David: Ah, I see what you mean, now.  Oddly, it's present in mine, both on Linux and Windows.  It seems to appear on any text box.

Meanwhile, I'm going to have to take a closer look at that features page.  There's probably a bunch more stuff that I just didn't notice on the betas and weeklies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David: Ah, I see what you mean, now.  Oddly, it&#8217;s present in mine, both on Linux and Windows.  It seems to appear on any text box.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, I&#8217;m going to have to take a closer look at that features page.  There&#8217;s probably a bunch more stuff that I just didn&#8217;t notice on the betas and weeklies.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/06/opera-9-released.html#comment-4464</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kelson, but what I was referring to was this bit from the Features page:

&lt;strong&gt;Add your favorite search engines
Right-click on the site's search field and select "Create search" from the menu.&lt;/strong&gt;

That was an extremely handy addition, and I made use of it in the beta, but now that option does not appear in my context menu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kelson, but what I was referring to was this bit from the Features page:</p>
<p><strong>Add your favorite search engines<br />
Right-click on the site&#8217;s search field and select &#8220;Create search&#8221; from the menu.</strong></p>
<p>That was an extremely handy addition, and I made use of it in the beta, but now that option does not appear in my context menu.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/06/opera-9-released.html#comment-4463</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that it's listed on the features page, so theoretically it should still be there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that it&#8217;s listed on the features page, so theoretically it should still be there.</p>
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