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	<title>Comments on: Google CEO dismisses talk of a Google Browser; Recommends the Opera browser</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel Goldman</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/05/google-ceo-dismisses-talk-of-a-google-browser-recommends-the-opera-browser.html#comment-4090</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Goldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 12:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ankur, last I heared was that about 25 people solved all the &lt;a href="http://operawatch.com/news/2006/05/nintendos-wii-to-include-the-opera-browser.html#comment-3819" rel="nofollow"&gt;Wii clues&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ankur, last I heared was that about 25 people solved all the <a href="http://operawatch.com/news/2006/05/nintendos-wii-to-include-the-opera-browser.html#comment-3819">Wii clues</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Ankur</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/05/google-ceo-dismisses-talk-of-a-google-browser-recommends-the-opera-browser.html#comment-4089</link>
		<dc:creator>Ankur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 07:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off-topic, when does that FireFox guy interview get published &#38; what happened to the "Wii love these people" thing? Did anyone solve it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off-topic, when does that FireFox guy interview get published &amp; what happened to the &#8220;Wii love these people&#8221; thing? Did anyone solve it?</p>
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		<title>By: Jehudah Goldstein</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/05/google-ceo-dismisses-talk-of-a-google-browser-recommends-the-opera-browser.html#comment-4087</link>
		<dc:creator>Jehudah Goldstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 19:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google has to embrace all standard based browsers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google has to embrace all standard based browsers.</p>
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		<title>By: sc</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/05/google-ceo-dismisses-talk-of-a-google-browser-recommends-the-opera-browser.html#comment-4084</link>
		<dc:creator>sc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Why not title the blog post 'Google CEO encourages Firefox, Safari and Opera', then?"

Because this is *Opera*Watch. Sheesh, what's the point of making this into an Opera vs. FF discussion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why not title the blog post &#8216;Google CEO encourages Firefox, Safari and Opera&#8217;, then?&#8221;</p>
<p>Because this is *Opera*Watch. Sheesh, what&#8217;s the point of making this into an Opera vs. FF discussion?</p>
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		<title>By: Jakub81</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/05/google-ceo-dismisses-talk-of-a-google-browser-recommends-the-opera-browser.html#comment-4082</link>
		<dc:creator>Jakub81</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 00:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should we care? Googel sucks anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should we care? Googel sucks anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Bishop</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/05/google-ceo-dismisses-talk-of-a-google-browser-recommends-the-opera-browser.html#comment-4081</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 23:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric Schmidt did not recommend Opera. He did not specifically recommend any browser. However, it was clear from what he said that Google considers Mozilla Firefox to be their prime partner in the browser arena, with other browsers such as Safari and Opera having a lower status (though it was implicit that they're still valued ahead of Internet Explorer).

How do I know all this? Why, I listened to conference call. At &lt;a href="http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/ir_20060523.html" title="Google to Host Investor Conference Cal" rel="nofollow"&gt;Google's press release announcing the May 31st investor conference call&lt;/a&gt;, there are links to streaming audio recordings of the conference call in RealAudio and Windows Media Audio formats.

The conference call recordings can currently be found at &lt;a href="http://investor.google.com/webcast" rel="nofollow"&gt;investor.google.com/webcast&lt;/a&gt; but they will move to &lt;a href="http://investor.google.com/webcast_archive" rel="nofollow"&gt;investor.google.com/webcast_archive&lt;/a&gt; in the future. The recordings pop up in these tiny windows that seem designed to make listening to them difficult. Fortunately, I extracted the actual URL of the RealAudio file of &lt;a href="http://video.vdat.com/playmedia_embed2.asp?sid=58148&#38;aid=59475" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://video.vdat.com/playmedia_embed2.asp?sid=58148&#38;aid=59475&lt;/a&gt; and loaded it directly into RealPlayer, allowing me to pause, rewind and re-listen to Schmidt's answers.

The question about Google making a browser starts at 26:15 and lasts until about 28:13. Fortunately, I've transcribed the answer below, so you don't have to listen to it. I haven't included the question but it can be paraphrased as, "Why doesn't Google make their own browser that ties in with their other services?"

&lt;blockquote cite="http://video.vdat.com/playmedia_embed2.asp?sid=58148&#38;aid=59475"&gt;We would make the decision based on what end-users want and not based on some strategic calculation that we made of our competitors. The industry's obsessed with this browser question and our observation is that you have number of fine browsers now; people have some good choices. We have a very, very active partnership with the Firefox folks. IE7 is coming out [and] in response to competition from Firefox has gotten better. Safari, which is the Apple browser, looks like a very strong offering in the Mac space. So it looks like people have some good browser choices already. So the way Google operates is we would not build a browser for the fun of building a browser and creating another choice &#8212; and by the way, I ommitted Opera and a few others that are also very interesting. We would only do something along the lines you're describing if we thought there was a real end-user benefit. So far we've the seen the end-user benefit has been to augment or expand on both AJAX and JavaScript, which is available on all the browsers. We're working very, very closely as I mentioned with Firefox, we have a good partnership with Safari and with Opera and a couple of others as well &#8212; and that seems like a good answer right now for us strategically.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric Schmidt did not recommend Opera. He did not specifically recommend any browser. However, it was clear from what he said that Google considers Mozilla Firefox to be their prime partner in the browser arena, with other browsers such as Safari and Opera having a lower status (though it was implicit that they&#8217;re still valued ahead of Internet Explorer).</p>
<p>How do I know all this? Why, I listened to conference call. At <a href="http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/pressrel/ir_20060523.html" title="Google to Host Investor Conference Cal">Google&#8217;s press release announcing the May 31st investor conference call</a>, there are links to streaming audio recordings of the conference call in RealAudio and Windows Media Audio formats.</p>
<p>The conference call recordings can currently be found at <a href="http://investor.google.com/webcast">investor.google.com/webcast</a> but they will move to <a href="http://investor.google.com/webcast_archive">investor.google.com/webcast_archive</a> in the future. The recordings pop up in these tiny windows that seem designed to make listening to them difficult. Fortunately, I extracted the actual URL of the RealAudio file of <a href="http://video.vdat.com/playmedia_embed2.asp?sid=58148&amp;aid=59475">http://video.vdat.com/playmedia_embed2.asp?sid=58148&amp;aid=59475</a> and loaded it directly into RealPlayer, allowing me to pause, rewind and re-listen to Schmidt&#8217;s answers.</p>
<p>The question about Google making a browser starts at 26:15 and lasts until about 28:13. Fortunately, I&#8217;ve transcribed the answer below, so you don&#8217;t have to listen to it. I haven&#8217;t included the question but it can be paraphrased as, &#8220;Why doesn&#8217;t Google make their own browser that ties in with their other services?&#8221;</p>
<blockquote cite="http://video.vdat.com/playmedia_embed2.asp?sid=58148&amp;aid=59475"><p>We would make the decision based on what end-users want and not based on some strategic calculation that we made of our competitors. The industry&#8217;s obsessed with this browser question and our observation is that you have number of fine browsers now; people have some good choices. We have a very, very active partnership with the Firefox folks. IE7 is coming out [and] in response to competition from Firefox has gotten better. Safari, which is the Apple browser, looks like a very strong offering in the Mac space. So it looks like people have some good browser choices already. So the way Google operates is we would not build a browser for the fun of building a browser and creating another choice &#8212; and by the way, I ommitted Opera and a few others that are also very interesting. We would only do something along the lines you&#8217;re describing if we thought there was a real end-user benefit. So far we&#8217;ve the seen the end-user benefit has been to augment or expand on both AJAX and JavaScript, which is available on all the browsers. We&#8217;re working very, very closely as I mentioned with Firefox, we have a good partnership with Safari and with Opera and a couple of others as well &#8212; and that seems like a good answer right now for us strategically.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Uhm...</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/05/google-ceo-dismisses-talk-of-a-google-browser-recommends-the-opera-browser.html#comment-4078</link>
		<dc:creator>Uhm...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 16:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not title the blog post "Google CEO encourages Firefox, Safari and Opera", then?

God only knows what mr. Schmidt actually said and how the reporter (mis)quoted him... But it is clear that Google is encouraging Firefox, while the last sentence is far from it. Of course they like when people use Safari and Opera since it makes them money, but I definitely wouldn't go so far as to make a claim as presented in this post.

For Google, Firefox is the #1 browser. The others are there just to make them more money; if they truly cared, they would have made their web apps fully functional in Safari and Opera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not title the blog post &#8220;Google CEO encourages Firefox, Safari and Opera&#8221;, then?</p>
<p>God only knows what mr. Schmidt actually said and how the reporter (mis)quoted him&#8230; But it is clear that Google is encouraging Firefox, while the last sentence is far from it. Of course they like when people use Safari and Opera since it makes them money, but I definitely wouldn&#8217;t go so far as to make a claim as presented in this post.</p>
<p>For Google, Firefox is the #1 browser. The others are there just to make them more money; if they truly cared, they would have made their web apps fully functional in Safari and Opera.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Goldman</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/05/google-ceo-dismisses-talk-of-a-google-browser-recommends-the-opera-browser.html#comment-4077</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Goldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the last sentence of the article:

"&lt;b&gt;It also has partnerships to encourage the use of&lt;/b&gt; the Safari browser among Apple Computer Inc. customers, &lt;b&gt;Norway's Opera Software ASA, which makes browsers for computers and phones, among several other browser alternatives, he said.&lt;/b&gt;"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the last sentence of the article:</p>
<p>&#8220;<b>It also has partnerships to encourage the use of</b> the Safari browser among Apple Computer Inc. customers, <b>Norway&#8217;s Opera Software ASA, which makes browsers for computers and phones, among several other browser alternatives, he said.</b>&#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: kL</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/05/google-ceo-dismisses-talk-of-a-google-browser-recommends-the-opera-browser.html#comment-4075</link>
		<dc:creator>kL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 09:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, post title is inaccurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, post title is inaccurate.</p>
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		<title>By: Uhm...</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/05/google-ceo-dismisses-talk-of-a-google-browser-recommends-the-opera-browser.html#comment-4074</link>
		<dc:creator>Uhm...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 07:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, Google's CEO doesn't recommend Opera anywhere. From the article (emphasis mine):

&lt;i&gt;Google &lt;b&gt;encourages&lt;/b&gt; its customers to use a variety of alternatives to Internet Explorer, particularly the open-source &lt;b&gt;Firefox&lt;/b&gt; browser.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, Google&#8217;s CEO doesn&#8217;t recommend Opera anywhere. From the article (emphasis mine):</p>
<p><i>Google <b>encourages</b> its customers to use a variety of alternatives to Internet Explorer, particularly the open-source <b>Firefox</b> browser.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/05/google-ceo-dismisses-talk-of-a-google-browser-recommends-the-opera-browser.html#comment-4073</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 04:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, its not as easy or simple as that, my original claim 

"support for closed source web-browsers like opera is harder, look at Roboform for example, still unsupported under opera." 

because "Google having a strong relationship with Mozilla, Google has direct access to the source, bugzilla and the firefox development community as a whole."

You have to understand, 3rd party support under Opera is near impossible. Having access to the source etc can help with 3rd party support, like Roboform and Google improve the browser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, its not as easy or simple as that, my original claim </p>
<p>&#8220;support for closed source web-browsers like opera is harder, look at Roboform for example, still unsupported under opera.&#8221; </p>
<p>because &#8220;Google having a strong relationship with Mozilla, Google has direct access to the source, bugzilla and the firefox development community as a whole.&#8221;</p>
<p>You have to understand, 3rd party support under Opera is near impossible. Having access to the source etc can help with 3rd party support, like Roboform and Google improve the browser.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Goldman</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/05/google-ceo-dismisses-talk-of-a-google-browser-recommends-the-opera-browser.html#comment-4072</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Goldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 03:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, if the open standards are followed, it shouldn't matter how Opera implements it inside their code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, if the open standards are followed, it shouldn&#8217;t matter how Opera implements it inside their code.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/05/google-ceo-dismisses-talk-of-a-google-browser-recommends-the-opera-browser.html#comment-4071</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 03:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he's so gung-ho about Opera, they should make all of Google's services fully compatible with it then. Having to open up Google Calendar in a different browser is annoying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he&#8217;s so gung-ho about Opera, they should make all of Google&#8217;s services fully compatible with it then. Having to open up Google Calendar in a different browser is annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/05/google-ceo-dismisses-talk-of-a-google-browser-recommends-the-opera-browser.html#comment-4070</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 03:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reason Google having a strong relationship with Mozilla, Google has direct access to the source, bugzilla and the firefox development community as a whole. Opera may support open standards, but its not open in its development.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reason Google having a strong relationship with Mozilla, Google has direct access to the source, bugzilla and the firefox development community as a whole. Opera may support open standards, but its not open in its development.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Goldman</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/05/google-ceo-dismisses-talk-of-a-google-browser-recommends-the-opera-browser.html#comment-4069</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Goldman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2006 02:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pallab De, read the last sentence of the Reuters article that I linked to; it's easy to miss it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pallab De, read the last sentence of the Reuters article that I linked to; it&#8217;s easy to miss it.</p>
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