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		<title>By: opera9grandsurprise</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/04/opera-9-review.html#comment-36007</link>
		<dc:creator>opera9grandsurprise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 19:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opera 9.X uncomfortable!</description>
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		<title>By: grrrrrr</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/04/opera-9-review.html#comment-20971</link>
		<dc:creator>grrrrrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 03:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh and now im forced to use other browsers if i want to us torrent files because alot of sites block opera as a torrent app</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh and now im forced to use other browsers if i want to us torrent files because alot of sites block opera as a torrent app</p>
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		<title>By: grrrrrr</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/04/opera-9-review.html#comment-20970</link>
		<dc:creator>grrrrrr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2006 03:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please allow the user the choice to save .torrent files to the desktop

whenever i try to save one to the desktop opera forces me to try and use opera as a bit-torrent client which is very annoying.</description>
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<p>whenever i try to save one to the desktop opera forces me to try and use opera as a bit-torrent client which is very annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/04/opera-9-review.html#comment-14448</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am trying to decide between Opera and Fire Fox, any advice on the strengths and weaknesses of each?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am trying to decide between Opera and Fire Fox, any advice on the strengths and weaknesses of each?</p>
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		<title>By: reehos</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/04/opera-9-review.html#comment-6717</link>
		<dc:creator>reehos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello, my name is Pikasso.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello, my name is Pikasso.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/04/opera-9-review.html#comment-4407</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2006 03:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article, interesting comments. I have little to add except that I'm not only fully on board with alex's comment about ctrl+t being "non-standards compliant" (who had 'tabs" first--whatever they're called--anyway?). In fact, Opera 9 makes it soooo easy to modify keyboard shortcuts that I did just that: ctrl+n STILL opens a new page (tab) in MY installs of Opera 9. Oh, ctrl+t still does too (I didn't modify it, just added "n+ctrl" and pointed it at new page... 

Oh, and screwing around with ctrl+d was a bad thing, too, so I put that back in for paste and go. Much simpler than forcing myself to switch to ctrl+b after years of such a short, quick keystroke combo.

So switchers had trouble with new keystroke combos. *wah* What about folks who'd been using Opera since version X (for me it was ver 3--I missed the '96 rollout of ver 2)? Do football (soccer) players all change their rules any time an American football player wants to play a while?

*feh*

But no problem. It's Opera. The whole family uses it, and it's no trivial matter to have them all learn new keystrokes, so averting "support calls" from them was as simple as reinstating the keystroke combos they've grown used to in Preferences&#62;Advanced&#62;Shortcuts&#62;Keybaoard Shortcuts.

After all, it &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; Opera, and has been seriously tweakable and customizable for years, so using the new, much easier interfaces of recent versions, much matured in Opera 9, it's a snap to correct some of these stumbles *heh* by Opera developers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article, interesting comments. I have little to add except that I&#8217;m not only fully on board with alex&#8217;s comment about ctrl+t being &#8220;non-standards compliant&#8221; (who had &#8216;tabs&#8221; first&#8211;whatever they&#8217;re called&#8211;anyway?). In fact, Opera 9 makes it soooo easy to modify keyboard shortcuts that I did just that: ctrl+n STILL opens a new page (tab) in MY installs of Opera 9. Oh, ctrl+t still does too (I didn&#8217;t modify it, just added &#8220;n+ctrl&#8221; and pointed it at new page&#8230; </p>
<p>Oh, and <acronym title="screwing">********</acronym> around with ctrl+d was a bad thing, too, so I put that back in for paste and go. Much simpler than forcing myself to switch to ctrl+b after years of such a short, quick keystroke combo.</p>
<p>So switchers had trouble with new keystroke combos. *wah* What about folks who&#8217;d been using Opera since version X (for me it was ver 3&#8211;I missed the &#8216;96 rollout of ver 2)? Do football (soccer) players all change their rules any time an American football player wants to play a while?</p>
<p>*feh*</p>
<p>But no problem. It&#8217;s Opera. The whole family uses it, and it&#8217;s no trivial matter to have them all learn new keystrokes, so averting &#8220;support calls&#8221; from them was as simple as reinstating the keystroke combos they&#8217;ve grown used to in Preferences&gt;Advanced&gt;Shortcuts&gt;Keybaoard Shortcuts.</p>
<p>After all, it <i>is</i> Opera, and has been seriously tweakable and customizable for years, so using the new, much easier interfaces of recent versions, much matured in Opera 9, it&#8217;s a snap to correct some of these stumbles *heh* by Opera developers.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Alberto Pinto Peixoto Bastos Santos</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/04/opera-9-review.html#comment-4184</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos Alberto Pinto Peixoto Bastos Santos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 04:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As mainly an OmniWeb browser user on the Mac, I'm can't help to be more than excited by some the new features added to the Opera. Site-specific preferences, easy to add search to Opera, page thumbnails are almost all the features that kept me using OW was the default browser on the Mac (but Opera is my default on Linux and Windows).
Bittorrent, the new shortcut scheme, and content blocker are also very nice additions. But I'm a bit concerned about the move on the flash plugin. Hope they change this before the final release.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As mainly an OmniWeb browser user on the Mac, I&#8217;m can&#8217;t help to be more than excited by some the new features added to the Opera. Site-specific preferences, easy to add search to Opera, page thumbnails are almost all the features that kept me using OW was the default browser on the Mac (but Opera is my default on Linux and Windows).<br />
Bittorrent, the new shortcut scheme, and content blocker are also very nice additions. But I&#8217;m a bit concerned about the move on the flash plugin. Hope they change this before the final release.</p>
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		<title>By: don't wanna state</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/04/opera-9-review.html#comment-3988</link>
		<dc:creator>don't wanna state</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2006 03:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to request opera to have an option to turn off the bitTorrent client  if they want to get coporate market. I don't like widget also (until now) and prefer that they open up the code a bit so that people can develop on it. May be not BSD license (?) which is totally free. I like tooltips and think that status bar is useless and a waste of screen space. I really think that opera would benefit more if they open up the source code, there are community, who only love open source, out there and they are willing to contribute to the open source project. Why not? Opera is already a free software. Update manager? Not bad, I guess. But the negative effects of that in one comment also is true. looping search ? :) ,it is not a problem for me and it does not annoy me, but it sure does annoy other I guess :) . glad that now I can add the search in the search box easily. I have been using Opera since 5.0 and never try to hack into that to get alternative search options. (I thought that I was power user, not anymore :D ) good review and good job to the opera team :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to request opera to have an option to turn off the bitTorrent client  if they want to get coporate market. I don&#8217;t like widget also (until now) and prefer that they open up the code a bit so that people can develop on it. May be not BSD license (?) which is totally free. I like tooltips and think that status bar is useless and a waste of screen space. I really think that opera would benefit more if they open up the source code, there are community, who only love open source, out there and they are willing to contribute to the open source project. Why not? Opera is already a free software. Update manager? Not bad, I guess. But the negative effects of that in one comment also is true. looping search ? <img src='http://operawatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> ,it is not a problem for me and it does not annoy me, but it sure does annoy other I guess <img src='http://operawatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . glad that now I can add the search in the search box easily. I have been using Opera since 5.0 and never try to hack into that to get alternative search options. (I thought that I was power user, not anymore <img src='http://operawatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> ) good review and good job to the opera team <img src='http://operawatch.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Stahn</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/04/opera-9-review.html#comment-3979</link>
		<dc:creator>Stahn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 23:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Markus, regarding your comment #20, a software should be easy to use, and easier to upgrade. Firefox updates are excellent.

Why, you ask? If I don't know anything about computers, the I don't know about "updates" so I'll never update. That's what happened with my uncle, I installed Firefox 1.0 and still was 1.0 when we were already on 1.5.

It's not the users fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Markus, regarding your comment #20, a software should be easy to use, and easier to upgrade. Firefox updates are excellent.</p>
<p>Why, you ask? If I don&#8217;t know anything about computers, the I don&#8217;t know about &#8220;updates&#8221; so I&#8217;ll never update. That&#8217;s what happened with my uncle, I installed Firefox 1.0 and still was 1.0 when we were already on 1.5.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the users fault.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Suarez</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/04/opera-9-review.html#comment-3894</link>
		<dc:creator>Luis Suarez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2006 11:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Daniel ! Great overview and some interesting points brought together by the additional commentary.  I have been using Opera myself for a number of years and although I do really like the O9 experience I think that Opera is missing the boat as far as social software is concerned. &lt;a&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; you have got some more thoughts on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Daniel ! Great overview and some interesting points brought together by the additional commentary.  I have been using Opera myself for a number of years and although I do really like the O9 experience I think that Opera is missing the boat as far as social software is concerned. <a>Here</a> you have got some more thoughts on that.</p>
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		<title>By: Blah</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/04/opera-9-review.html#comment-3811</link>
		<dc:creator>Blah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2006 09:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Again, it’s got nothing to do with extensions what so ever.&lt;/i&gt;

Which is unfortunate. I ran a small survey amongst my Opera-using friends, and nobody - absolutely nobody - understands this widget deal. I don't plan on using widgets, nobody plans on using widgets.

There's only one or two widgets so far that &lt;em&gt;might&lt;/em&gt; prove to be &lt;em&gt;somewhat&lt;/em&gt; useful, but generally, they suck, almost to the extent of Microsoft's Clippy.

Wake me up the day Opera allows us to make something that integrates with the browser chrome, or at least gets local file access for UserCSS and UserJS. Right now, there is a number of online games with skin-packs, which are useless in Opera (but very useful for Fx/IE), and Opera is losing even that niche. Everyone I know is pissed with the lack of extending Opera.

Don't get me wrong - Opera is still my greatest and only browser love, but it's &lt;strong&gt;NEVER&lt;/strong&gt; going to gain more attention with such a closed nature. The time they spent on coding widget support, something extremely few people will use, could have been better utilized on actually opening Opera, &lt;strong&gt;at least&lt;/strong&gt; for the multitude of web developers out there. A built-in Web Developer's toolbar, error consoles that don't suck (why not a panel, or a tab?!), a JS debugger... That would have been much more useful than an insanely stupid widget system. For god's sake, even NTLM support and an auto-updater would have pushed Opera ahead a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Again, it’s got nothing to do with extensions what so ever.</i></p>
<p>Which is unfortunate. I ran a small survey amongst my Opera-using friends, and nobody - absolutely nobody - understands this widget deal. I don&#8217;t plan on using widgets, nobody plans on using widgets.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s only one or two widgets so far that <em>might</em> prove to be <em>somewhat</em> useful, but generally, they suck, almost to the extent of Microsoft&#8217;s Clippy.</p>
<p>Wake me up the day Opera allows us to make something that integrates with the browser chrome, or at least gets local file access for UserCSS and UserJS. Right now, there is a number of online games with skin-packs, which are useless in Opera (but very useful for Fx/IE), and Opera is losing even that niche. Everyone I know is pissed with the lack of extending Opera.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong - Opera is still my greatest and only browser love, but it&#8217;s <strong>NEVER</strong> going to gain more attention with such a closed nature. The time they spent on coding widget support, something extremely few people will use, could have been better utilized on actually opening Opera, <strong>at least</strong> for the multitude of web developers out there. A built-in Web Developer&#8217;s toolbar, error consoles that don&#8217;t suck (why not a panel, or a tab?!), a JS debugger&#8230; That would have been much more useful than an insanely stupid widget system. For god&#8217;s sake, even NTLM support and an auto-updater would have pushed Opera ahead a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Heh</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/04/opera-9-review.html#comment-3805</link>
		<dc:creator>Heh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 May 2006 17:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I think Opera was kind of forced into adding support for widgets as a result of Firefox’s hugely popular extensions.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Er, widgets have got nothing to do with extensions. Widgets are the Opera Platform running on a desktop platform.

Widgets were added to Opera Mobile first, remember? As an important part of Opera's business model?

Again, it's got nothing to do with extensions what so ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I think Opera was kind of forced into adding support for widgets as a result of Firefox’s hugely popular extensions.</p></blockquote>
<p>Er, widgets have got nothing to do with extensions. Widgets are the Opera Platform running on a desktop platform.</p>
<p>Widgets were added to Opera Mobile first, remember? As an important part of Opera&#8217;s business model?</p>
<p>Again, it&#8217;s got nothing to do with extensions what so ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/04/opera-9-review.html#comment-3793</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 20:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;‘Find on Page’ highlights matches on page
When you search for a keyword on a page, the matches will be highlighted, a feature which has been available in Firefox for sometime already.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I may be mistaken since the computer at home (with Opera 8x) is busted, but hasn't Opera done this highlighting thing for years?  I could swear I did it on my computer 3 years ago (before 8.0 even came out).
&lt;blockquote&gt;But, one important feature missing is notifying the user that they have reached the end of the page. It has happened many times where I was searching for a term and continued searching, not knowing that I had already looped around to the beginning of the page a number of times.
I think that this feature comes standard with &lt;b&gt;any&lt;/b&gt; other application/browser, and should be added to Merlin&lt;/blockquote&gt;Actually I'm finding that there are FEW programs that tell you that the search has reached the end of the page.  But it is a good suggestion.  I wish the programs that I use did it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>‘Find on Page’ highlights matches on page<br />
When you search for a keyword on a page, the matches will be highlighted, a feature which has been available in Firefox for sometime already.</p></blockquote>
<p>I may be mistaken since the computer at home (with Opera 8x) is busted, but hasn&#8217;t Opera done this highlighting thing for years?  I could swear I did it on my computer 3 years ago (before 8.0 even came out).</p>
<blockquote><p>But, one important feature missing is notifying the user that they have reached the end of the page. It has happened many times where I was searching for a term and continued searching, not knowing that I had already looped around to the beginning of the page a number of times.<br />
I think that this feature comes standard with <b>any</b> other application/browser, and should be added to Merlin</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually I&#8217;m finding that there are FEW programs that tell you that the search has reached the end of the page.  But it is a good suggestion.  I wish the programs that I use did it.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/04/opera-9-review.html#comment-3790</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 17:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;"browsers use the CTRL+T shortcut to open a new tab."&lt;/i&gt;
Funny, most &lt;b&gt;PROGRAMS&lt;/b&gt;* use CTRL+N to open a new document/page (which &lt;b&gt;is&lt;/b&gt; what a tab is).If you ask me, browsers such as Firefox aren't being standards compliant with the CTRL+T shortcut.


*Why limit standards compliance to browsers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;browsers use the CTRL+T shortcut to open a new tab.&#8221;</i><br />
Funny, most <b>PROGRAMS</b>* use CTRL+N to open a new document/page (which <b>is</b> what a tab is).If you ask me, browsers such as Firefox aren&#8217;t being standards compliant with the CTRL+T shortcut.</p>
<p>*Why limit standards compliance to browsers?</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus</title>
		<link>http://operawatch.com/news/2006/04/opera-9-review.html#comment-3785</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2006 15:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote cite="EC"&gt;one important feature missing is notifying the user that they have reached the &lt;i&gt;end of the page&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yes, yes, yes!
The lack of this feature in Opera annoys me almost daily (usually tens of times per day). One now has to look at the scrollbar before and after each press on F3 to see if it has wrapped. Why won't the people at Opera understand the obvious fact that people usually don't memorize the context of each search hit and the look at the match and not the scrollbar.
(It's like the menus on Nokia's PoS mobile phone UIs, where you always go 2-3 times through each menu before you realize that you're looping. The people at Nokia ar so utterly clueless that they don't understand that when people look for something they don't pay attention to stuff that does not match what they're looking for, including scrollbars and line numbers.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite="EC"><p>one important feature missing is notifying the user that they have reached the <i>end of the page</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, yes, yes!<br />
The lack of this feature in Opera annoys me almost daily (usually tens of times per day). One now has to look at the scrollbar before and after each press on F3 to see if it has wrapped. Why won&#8217;t the people at Opera understand the obvious fact that people usually don&#8217;t memorize the context of each search hit and the look at the match and not the scrollbar.<br />
(It&#8217;s like the menus on Nokia&#8217;s PoS mobile phone UIs, where you always go 2-3 times through each menu before you realize that you&#8217;re looping. The people at Nokia ar so utterly clueless that they don&#8217;t understand that when people look for something they don&#8217;t pay attention to stuff that does not match what they&#8217;re looking for, including scrollbars and line numbers.)</p>
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