Comments on: Yahoo discriminating against the Opera browser

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 06 Jan 2006 12:54:00 +0000

I hope it is ok to put a link to a petition on this subject. If it’s not, then just delete the comment. Thank you.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/932730987

By: Ciuly

Ciuly — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:29:00 +0000

I agree with atlantel.

Up until a few weeks ago, when I was using opera 8.50, I had absolutly no problem marking emails read/unread etc. The all of a sudden I was no longer able to get the div with thos einfo to show whn clicking on the mark button. I upgraded to opera 8.51 (latest) but still nothing. I then sent them an email with a bug report and got back response like that on how to clean up/configure browser or to get IE or netscape.

Since it did work, and now it doesn’t work, it means they are trying to break opera. what other reason would be to feed crappy code to opera for a function that DID work with no problem for as loong as I can remember? (I use opera since version 6, and I’m with yahoo for more than 5 years)

This issue is more than ugly.

Oh, and I also sent them those differences between what IE and opera gets, but they just ignored that. As they also ignored my suggestions on how to reproduce the problem on a clean amchine with any account after they wanted to get into my account to see the issue.

From my point of view, Yahoo customer care, at least those who took the time to respond to my bug report, are incompetent. All they know is to copy and paste those standard text lines on how to blablabla. They don’t even have the decency to escalete the issue when comming from someone that claims and demonstrates that he knows what he is talking about.

By: minghong

minghong — Tue, 22 Nov 2005 02:37:00 +0000

@janbar, because this is by far the most informative, up-to-date and interesting Opera-related blog that I’ve seen. Why can’t I leave a comment here?

By: atlantel

atlantel — Sun, 20 Nov 2005 11:28:00 +0000

Oh true and when I had a problem with my inbox (i couldn’t access it anymore), the help from yahoo was a long e-mail (how to delete cookies, clear history etc) and two links… where I should find the latest version of IE and Firefox.

And since a couple of days, the tool ‘mark as’ unread, read etc, is unavailabe with Opera

By: janbar

janbar — Fri, 18 Nov 2005 16:58:00 +0000

If you dont use Opera, then why for sake, you waste your time here, typing useless comments,minghong?

By: minghong

minghong — Fri, 18 Nov 2005 02:14:00 +0000

> If they had broken their page in Firefox, you would for sure talk differently :irked:

Sure. If they had broken their pages in Firefox, I won’t even waste my time to visit the site anymore. So no problem for me again.

By: Kelson

Kelson — Thu, 17 Nov 2005 18:05:00 +0000

Hmm, since complex scripting in IE often involves proprietary methods, but Firefox and Opera both strive to implement standards, wouldn’t it have made more sense to compare the code that Yahoo gives Opera to the code it serves to Firefox?

My eyes kind of glazed over, but I imagine at least some of that code that IE got was there to work around bugs or behavior differences, or to implement missing features.

A lot of it also seems to be related to the rich text interface, which Opera up through 8.5 can’t use in the first place, so at least some of the deletions actually help Opera users by saving them bandwidth.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 12:11:00 +0000

And really, how does it help yahoo by breaking Opera? Amazing isn’t it that yahoo has time to look for new ways to break Opera but neither the will nor the proficiency to make there site work with Opera. Your lack of common sense astounds me. A browser that has less than a percent of market share probably is not even visible on Yahoo’s radar and yet they make there website work just fine with Opera. Recently they improved My Yahoo to work with Opera. Most feature rich websites like AOL for example do not work with Opera. Gmail did not work with Opera for one full year. People still have issues. start.com does not work with Opera. Yahoo is among the better websites out there - unlike google, msn, aol etc.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 10:12:00 +0000

Yahoo is definitely not more compatible with Opera than most web sites. Most web sites actually work fine. Yahoo has had certain problems.

Which leads to the next point: Why do these problems appear? Is it because Opera is not compatible enough?

No.

When Yahoo has been broken in Opera, as is also the case here, it has simply used browser detection to speficially break Opera in various ways.

This does indeed seem to be the case yet again.

Maybe the previous poster should think of actually reading the available information before making misinformed comments.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 16 Nov 2005 09:27:00 +0000

How many browsers do you expect Yahoo to write code for. The first thing I noticed was that there is a lot of code. Maintaining it for several browsers is not an easy job. In fact Yahoo is much more compatible with Opera than most websites are. Over the years Yahoo has only improved support for Opera. Maybe Opera should think of making their browser work with Yahoo better.

By: panoptican

panoptican — Tue, 15 Nov 2005 07:06:00 +0000

Good god. The first bit is the toolbar for rich-text control but there are is over 1500 lines of code for IE compared to around 500 for Opera. I thought Yahoo! was going Web 2.0 on us. I don’t know what that means exactly but I thought standards compliance was part of the deal.

By: Robert Blaut

Robert Blaut — Tue, 15 Nov 2005 06:49:00 +0000

> If they want maintenance nightmares, just let them do what they want.
If they had broken their page in Firefox, you would for sure talk differently :irked:

By: minghong

minghong — Tue, 15 Nov 2005 06:13:00 +0000

I see no problem. If they want maintenance nightmares, just let them do what they want.

By: treego14

treego14 — Tue, 15 Nov 2005 06:00:00 +0000

Should Opera be trusted by Yahoo to be able to handle the code that IE is getting, though?

By: janbar

janbar — Tue, 15 Nov 2005 04:55:00 +0000

That animation is buggy, coze it neverending sends requests to Hallvords page, after it came to the end.

Greetings,

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